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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
    Still, not a traditional Visual Novel. Hakuoki and Disgaea Infinite are the only VNs the PSP ever saw in the West.
    What is a traditional VN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lailmith View Post
    What is a traditional VN?
    I mentioned a page ago, and you saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
    I mentioned a page ago, and you saw it.
    You mentioned three titles. You can't assume that if you mention three titles that XSEED has never localized in XSEED forum people would be able to tell just what you mean by that. You cant expect people to have played those three, considering that not all have PSP and Higurashi never saw a full decent English release. And I wouldnt call Higurashi a traditional VN.

    If Higurashi is traditional VN then Clannad, Ever17, etc are not traditional VNs. Since Higurashi=no choices/gameplay elements at all, and Clannad/Ever17 have some. Is that what you meant? Somehow I doubt it as there are not many VNs which have no player interaction at all. So,

    What is a traditional VN?

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    This isn't the place for that discussion, I've posted my share trying not to go off-topic. If you want to discuss Visual Novels, go here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
    Still, not a traditional Visual Novel. Hakuoki and Disgaea Infinite are the only VNs the PSP ever saw in the West.
    So,you disagree with Tom,but you don't specify why exactly you think BoS is still not a VN.Would be helpful if you did,as I never played either of 'em (yet?:v)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
    This isn't the place for that discussion, I've posted my share trying not to go off-topic.
    Hate to break it to you bud,but the thread has gone off-topic since page 3. >>

    Either way,I still stand by my early statement that if doesn't cost much and pulls decent money,I don't see the problem of Xseed (or anyone else) releasing VN's on steam and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuka View Post
    This isn't the place for that discussion, I've posted my share trying not to go off-topic. If you want to discuss Visual Novels, go here.
    This was about Ys Seven PC. You were the one who brought up Corpse Party and making this more off-topic. And you kept going.. Though this thread was a bit OT before that too, with all that Falcom talk, but that is at least related to Ys Seven
    We could have ended this OT if you had just answered my question instead of only giving me three non-xseed titles, which is not really a good asnwer at all. I have only played Higurashi from those so no way I could have known what you meant.

    And I didnt see you explaining a traditional VN in that thread either.

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    Corpse Party: Book of Shadows would probably qualify as a traditional visual novel, actually. At least, about half its chapters would -- one has no gameplay whatsoever beyond a couple choices you can make, and a few others have only the illusion of gameplay (i.e. you get to "move around" on the map, but it's forcing you in one direction linearly and not really letting you deviate from that path at all). If I had to pick one genre for that game, in fact, it would be visual novel. Point-and-click adventure would be a distant second.

    As for "traditional visual novel," I believe the strict definition requires there to be no gameplay whatsoever -- just visuals, audio and lots of text. If it has decisions you can make, it essentially becomes an "interactive novel" -- though everybody still just calls those visual novels, because honestly, that term still applies very nicely. (:

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    This is completely OT again but,

    Falcon Strike track from Ys Seven uses the same riff as Strongest Foe track from Ys III/Felghana??

    Are there more similarities like that?

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    Nothing quite as blatant, though the song "Do Not Go Gently" (or in the original Japanese track listing, "Don't Go So Smoothly") is reused verbatim in Ys Seven after first making an appearance in Ys II.

    I also swear Altago Plains has a few instrumental and stylistic callbacks to Ys IV in it, though that's debatable.

    Consequently, there's something of a tradition at work here, as virtually every Ys game reuses or calls back to music from previous titles. Ark of Napishtim, for example, features a remixed version of the Romun Army theme from Ys IV... Ys V features a version of Theme of Adol that borrows heavily from both Ys III's "The Boy Who Had Wings" and Ys IV's "Theme of Adol 1993"... and Ys III, well, featured "The Boy Who Had Wings," which was essentially a variation on the Theme of Adol from the original version of Ys I with a different melody but the exact same beat structure.

    And Ys Origin, of course, is throwback central.

    -Tom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrdwad View Post
    Consequently, there's something of a tradition at work here, as virtually every Ys game reuses or calls back to music from previous titles. Ark of Napishtim, for example, features a remixed version of the Romun Army theme from Ys IV... Ys V features a version of Theme of Adol that borrows heavily from both Ys III's "The Boy Who Had Wings" and Ys IV's "Theme of Adol 1993"... and Ys III, well, featured "The Boy Who Had Wings," which was essentially a variation on the Theme of Adol from the original version of Ys I with a different melody but the exact same beat structure.
    Well, "The Boy Who Had Wings" is virtually "Theme of Adol 1989" anyways, yeah. For some reason, I always thought of "To Reveal the Way to Go" as the closest thing to Adol's theme in Seven, for some reason.

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