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    Crossbell Archives Book (SPOILERS for the WHOLE Series!)

    I mentioned in another thread that I would probably open another topic specifically to this book. There is a TON of information in this book that was revealed in Zero and Ao no Kiseki, and even supplementary information to go along with it- stuff that hasn't been in the games at all.

    The big thing is, I know that there are people on here who ARE familiar with the trilogy as a whole.

    So here's what I'll do. There's so much info that I just can't post it all in one post. I may find particular key things people might be interested in, but the big part is this will be driven by what people want to know.

    This book DOES have key information from Zero and Ao no Kiseki, so this thread will likely contain spoilers for all five games.

    I will give the setup of the book, and allow people to ask questions about what they want to see or know, as a means to start.

    The first half of the book are the scenarios for Zero and Ao no Kiseki. They aren't the scripts per say, but they're a detailed recount of the games. On the margins are annotations of key terms and or past incidents.

    For example:
    When D.G is first brought up in Zero no Kiseki... during that section of the Zero scenario, there's a 'keyword' in the margin for D.G --then just below it, another keyword in the margin over the incident where multiple organizations came together to get rid of the lodges.

    Both of these keyword sections are short blurbs. There are also 'Character' blurbs that come up. If a character shows up anywhere in Zero and Ao as a relatively important character, the book will then refer you to the back half.

    The back half is the Character section. If a character has any important role of any sort in Zero and Ao no Kiseki (face icons), then they will be included in this section. Each character has a profile, but what's in the profile is different depending on them.

    Best part is that if they were important to Zero/Ao, Sora characters are in this section, too.

    This goes from Estelle and Joshua, to even Klose, Olivier, Mueller, Kevin, and Ries. I'm also sure that Lechter and Kilika are in it. (On check: yes. they are.)

    Example:
    Lloyd Bannings (voice actor: Tetsuya Kakihara)
    Age: 18
    Gender: Male
    Height: 175cm
    Blood Type: O
    Birthplace: Crossbell
    Hobbies: Fishing, Reading, Independent Training
    Likes: Models, Orbal Stereos, and Pasta Dinners

    Not all characters are as detailed as Lloyd's is above. With exception, (almost) all the female characters have their three-sizes listed. Arianrhod is not included. But seriously- would YOU really want to be the one to measure her for this??

    Past THAT section of characters is a 'character glossary.' Not only are chat-icon-less NPC's in this, but so are any character that's existed in the Kiseki series that didn't show up but was mentioned. Stuff like Ein and Rufina being mentioned in Ao. They're in the glossary, too.

    After that section is a list of the 'relationship scenes' from Ao no Kiseki.

    But one of my favorite sections is after that: the polls. Before this book came out, a TON of user polls were made, for things like 'Favorite Character' - Favorite S-Craft. Favorite Art. Favorite scene. Favorite line... that sort of thing.

    'Who is the strongest?' had a surprise in it.
    And 'Who needed a face icon?' has a sketch of someone's portrait that was definitely missing in Ao no Kiseki. They sketched the face of the Duke of Remiferia in here.

    So with this in mind. I guess feel free to throw questions at me about what's in the book.

    Despite the fact that the article is marked for spoilers, I'll still use spoiler tags in it. If you want to use the ones I'm using, here:

    < span style="color: #000000; background-color: #000000" > SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER < /span >
    (without spaces at the brackets, of course.)

    I will give a free spoiler, though, based on an SC villain that shows in Ao no Kiseki.
    However many years since the Special Collection book, they have not changed in their 'vagueness' on Campanella's gender.

    The Special Collection Book lists his gender as 'unknown.' The Crossbell Archives book lists it as 'Male?' His age is, of course, listed as 'unknown' as well.
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    1. I want a confirmation whether Seiland-sensei, whom the party met during the visits on St. Ursula in Ao, is really Lucy-senpai from The 3rd or one of her relatives.

    2. Profile request: Dudley, Mireille, Ilya, Dieter, Sully, Shizuku, Hayworth Family (including Renne), Ernest, Lechter, Olivier, Kloe, Dr. Novartis, Osborne, Rocksmith.

    3. I guess the 'strongest person' is KeA LOL.

    4. Please post the poor Duke of Remifilia's face icon. IIRC, there's a 4-koma from Illust Contest that lampshade this .

    5. What are Mariabell's hobbies aside from groping Elie and collecting dolls? Or are those her only hobbies? And speaking of which, does she replaced Weissmann's position?

    6. Do they have a complete timeline of Zero and Ao? I'm curious how long the events of those two games take place. Isn't Zero lasts 3 months? Because I remember Estelle talked about how 6 months had passed since they met Renne for the last time (aka The 3rd). Also when Lloyd first met her, she said it's already 3 months after they left Phantasma.

    7. Who is Dieter's wife and Mariabell's mom?

    8. Do they list all the references to other Falcom games in Zero and Ao? Especially to Ys and Gagharv Trilogy. And I'm gonna say that they blatantly referenced AToV's ending in Ao's ending (look at when Lloyd jumps to World of Zero to save KeA).

    9. What are the national holidays in Crossbell, and how the citizens celebrate them?

    10. What's the meaning behind KeA's name?

    I think that's all for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire_Eyes View Post
    2. Profile request: Dudley, Mireille, Ilya, Dieter, Sully, Shizuku, Hayworth Family (including Renne), Ernest, Lechter, Olivier, Kloe, Dr. Novartis, Osborne, Rocksmith.
    I'm making an individual post for the profiles, then I will get to everything else.

    Name: Alex Dudley
    Age: 27
    Gender: Male
    Height: 180cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell
    Hobbies: Maintaining his Shoe Collection
    Likes: Shoes

    Name: Mireille
    Age: 22
    Gender: Female
    Height: 162cm
    3-Sizes: B87/W58/H88
    Birthplace: Crossbell

    Name: Ilya Platiere
    Age: 22
    Gender: Female
    Height: 168cm
    3-Sizes: B83/W57/H80
    Hobbies: The Stage and Drinking
    Likes: The Stage
    Dislikes: An Unrefined Audience

    Name: Dieter Crois
    Age: 45
    Gender: Male
    Height 183cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell
    Hobbies: Driving and all sports

    Name: Sully Atraid
    Age: 13
    Gender: Female
    Height: 149cm
    3-Sizes: B70/W50/H72
    Blood Type: A
    Birthplace: North Ambria Independent Region
    Hobbies: Cleaning
    Dislikes: Privledged Rich People

    Name: Shizuku MacLaine
    Age: 9
    Gender: Female
    3-Sizes: B65/W47/H68
    Hobbies: Making accessories, Reading (Braille Books)
    Likes: Fluffy (fuzzy) things

    Name: Harold Hayworth
    Age: 34
    Gender: Male
    Height 173cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell

    Name: Sophia Hayworth
    Age: 32
    Gender: Female
    Height: 158cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell

    Name: Colin Hayworth
    Age: 5
    Gender: Male
    Height: 102cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell

    Name: Renne Hayworth
    Age: 12
    Gender: Female
    Height: 143cm
    3-Sizes: B67/W49/H70
    Birthplace: Crossbell
    Hobbies: Going on Strolls, Tea Parties, Essay Writing, Pranks, Net Hacking
    Likes: Black Tea, Scones, Cookies, Ice Cream


    Name: Earnest Ries
    Age: 28
    Gender: Male
    Height: 182cm
    Birthplace: Crossbell

    Name: Lecter Arandor
    Age: 22
    Gender: Male
    Height: 178cm
    Birthplace: Unknown
    Hobbies: Travel, Fishing, Gambling, Ukelele,
    Likes: Black Tea

    Name: Olivert Reise Arnor
    Age: 27
    Gender: Male
    Height: 175cm
    Birthplace: Erebonia Empire
    Hobbies: Performing with piano and lute
    Likes: Grand Sharine (Wine)


    Name: Klaudia von Auslese
    Age: 18
    Gender: Female
    Height: 160cm
    3-Sizes: B80/W58/H86
    Birthplace: Liberl Kingdom
    Hobbies: Making sweets


    Name: F. Novartis
    Age: Unknown
    Gender: Male
    Birthplace: Unknown


    Name: Giliath Osborne
    Age: 53
    Gender: Male
    Height: 183cm
    Birthplace: Erebonia Empire
    Likes: Coffee


    Name: Samuel Rocksmith
    Age: 64
    Gender: Male
    Height: 168cm
    Birthplace: Calvard Republic
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    Okay. This will get spammy:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire_Eyes View Post
    1. I want a confirmation whether Seiland-sensei, whom the party met during the visits on St. Ursula in Ao, is really Lucy-senpai from The 3rd or one of her relatives.
    I'll go ahead and give you the whole blurb on Professor Seiland from the character glossary:

    Joachim's successor for teaching pharmaceuticals and neurology. She was Joachim's classmate during school. She is of the same family that owns the medical use orbal device maker, the Seiland Company, and Lucy Seiland is her niece. She is strict and skilled, and was able to successfully handle Mikhail's incurable disease through surgery.


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    3. I guess the 'strongest person' is KeA LOL.
    She's actually third.

    That poll was:
    1. Arianrhod
    2. Lloyd Bannings
    3. KeA
    4. Arios MacLaine
    5. Randy Orlando
    6. Wazy Hemisphere
    7. Tio Plato
    8. Alex Dudley
    9. Rixia Mao
    10. Elie MacDowell

    Their 'of note' on this is that the Bootlegger from the random quest had 5 votes.


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    4. Please post the poor Duke of Remifilia's face icon. IIRC, there's a 4-koma from Illust Contest that lampshade this .


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    5. What are Mariabell's hobbies aside from groping Elie and collecting dolls? Or are those her only hobbies? And speaking of which, does she replaced Weissmann's position?
    She's got Likes and Hobbies. Hobbies are: Doll Collecting and Orbal Game 'Pomtto!' - Likes are : Rosenberg Dolls and Elie. (XD)

    As for the other thing about her:

    She became the third pillar. Shirley became a Legion.

    Quote:
    Mariabell has become the third pillar, and with Shirley joining the Ouroboros as a Legion, the Leader moves the Orpheus Project into its final stages, and will begin to involve all of the Zemuria Continent.


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    6. Do they have a complete timeline of Zero and Ao? I'm curious how long the events of those two games take place. Isn't Zero lasts 3 months? Because I remember Estelle talked about how 6 months had passed since they met Renne for the last time (aka The 3rd). Also when Lloyd first met her, she said it's already 3 months after they left Phantasma.
    There is no complete timeline. However, I know a website that put together Zero in a pretty neat list. Zero definitely lasts about three months. They even figured out the 'approximate month of the year' in fact.


    0 days - Lloyd arrives in Crossbell (Very early April)
    2 days - - Mediation in Old Town Begins
    5 days - later - Mediation settled. Investigation of miners injured by monsters in Maintz
    1 week - Chapter 1 begins
    1 month + 3 weeks - Threatening letters arrive to Arc n'Ciel - (This is during the last half of May now.)
    2 months - Chapter 2 begins (June)
    3 months - Chapter 3 begins (July - takes place over 5 days)
    3 months + 1 week - Intermission
    3 months + 2 weeks - Blue pills appear on the market. Things begin to go wrong in multiple places. (End of July)
    4 months - Chapter 4 + Final Chapter (August)


    Source is here: http://www47.atwiki.jp/ao_psp/pages/109.html
    There are some things on that site I'm unsure about. I can't find where they got year 1162 for the origins of the Grals Ritter, for example.

    They also believe that it's 1208 when Crossbell wins independence from Erebonia.

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    7. Who is Dieter's wife and Mariabell's mom?
    There's no information on her in the book, from where I've seen. I may have to dig around more in it. I won't be surprised if she was one of the victims to the incidents in Crossbell.

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    8. Do they list all the references to other Falcom games in Zero and Ao? Especially to Ys and Gagharv Trilogy. And I'm gonna say that they blatantly referenced AToV's ending in Ao's ending (look at when Lloyd jumps to World of Zero to save KeA).
    There isn't anything on references, unfortunately.

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    9. What are the national holidays in Crossbell, and how the citizens celebrate them?
    If it's in the book, I've yet to find it.

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    10. What's the meaning behind KeA's name?
    'Key of A' - she is the key to the beginning of everything.
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    WHY FALCOM WHY YOU RETCONNED LECHTER'S AGE!? Or probably it's a mistake when they listed his age as 23 in Ao's pre-release materials (the same goes to Osborne's as well). And his birthplace is "Unknown"? Speculation fodder ahoy!

    Also, I found it very fishy that Renne and Julia haven't had their birthday yet. I checked in Character Illustration Book and The 3rd's official website as well, and their age in Ao are still the same one as The 3rd.

    Haha, Dudley likes collecting shoes. I wonder if he collects Strega as well. Beware Estelle and Kevin, you might have a new challanger .

    Wait. Crossbell gains its independence on 1208? Combined by the statement in Ao's ending that said Crossbell is liberated 2 years after SSS saved KeA, and Ao begins some months after Zero....so, Ao's events took about a year and half!?

    About references list: that's shame considering Crossbell Duology have some pretty....interesting references to AToV. Like Justice Hammer, Meteor Breaker, Douglas in general, or like I've said before a certain part of Ao's ending..

    Phew. That's a lot of info they got. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire_Eyes View Post
    WHY FALCOM WHY YOU RETCONNED LECHTER'S AGE!? Or probably it's a mistake when they listed his age as 23 in Ao's pre-release materials (the same goes to Osborne's as well). And his birthplace is "Unknown"? Speculation fodder ahoy!
    That's okay. They also have two different ages for Elie's grandfather as well in a couple of books. lawl

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    Also, I found it very fishy that Renne and Julia haven't had their birthday yet. I checked in Character Illustration Book and The 3rd's official website as well, and their age in Ao are still the same one as The 3rd.
    I imagine that they're late-year birthdays, then. If things work out time-wise from Zero, then Ao begins in late 1204. (August or later.) - again, that's a fansite and that's all speculation on their part, so I can't say for sure. They also had a date that I don't know the origin of and can't find on my own end, as well.

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    Haha, Dudley likes collecting shoes. I wonder if he collects Strega as well. Beware Estelle and Kevin, you might have a new challanger .
    I can't remember it exactly, but someone pointed it out to me that KeA bugs him on it in a scene in Ao, I think. Ao or Zero. And he gets all >___< over it. xD

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    Wait. Crossbell gains its independence on 1208? Combined by the statement in Ao's ending that said Crossbell is liberated 2 years after SSS saved KeA, and Ao begins some months after Zero....so, Ao's events took about a year and half!?
    The span of Ao wouldn't surprise me. I know for a fact that everyone was split up for about a month at the beginning of the final chapter. But if it ends in 1205, then it's likely that the time, after the ending is 1207. Again, it's all speculation, and I'm not 100% sure on their time and dates.

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    About references list: that's shame considering Crossbell Duology have some pretty....interesting references to AToV. Like Justice Hammer, Meteor Breaker, Douglas in general, or like I've said before a certain part of Ao's ending..
    Oh, it's not just that, either. There's a lot of other little things that link back over the Gagharv series as well. I don't think Falcom's ready to reveal their hand on that, if there is one.

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    Phew. That's a lot of info they got. Thanks!
    It's a pretty big, beefy book! There's still a crapton of stuff in here so if you have any other questions, let me know. I might randomly post in here with other stuff that's shown up in it, too.
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    Questions and requests again~.

    1. Profile request: Estelle, Noel, Jona, Cao, Guy

    2. Poll request: favorite S-Craft, favorite character, sexiest character (if that exist ), favorite monster (again, if that exist)

    3. Do the Hayworths ever met with Renne before Ao's ending? I remember Harold talking about visiting Mainz just before the party enter the final dungeon, and at the same time the Brights and Renne are there.

    4. Do they explain about Aianbleed? Y'know, that Erebonian army which Lechter is a member of.

    5. Is there a list of all the recipes and their variations?

    Thanks in advance.

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    She's actually third.

    That poll was:
    1. Arianrhod
    2. Lloyd Bannings
    3. KeA
    4. Arios MacLaine
    5. Randy Orlando
    6. Wazy Hemisphere
    7. Tio Plato
    8. Alex Dudley
    9. Rixia Mao
    10. Elie MacDowell

    Their 'of note' on this is that the Bootlegger from the random quest had 5 votes.
    I assume that list refers only about the ao and zero characters and and that there isn't a list involving the charcters from the trilogy


    profile request : joshua , richard , lowe , killika , ries , mueller , arios , wald ( if they are in )

    L'union fait la force !

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    Hey, heads up guys!

    I've been a little busy- the response is mostly written in a notepad file at home, though! I'll get it posted once I get a chance to finish it.
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