End of XSeed retail releases?

[Fabrizo]

There was actually a pretty wild outcry over the transition of analog to digital televisions. The whole reason the government got pulled in was the people saying that they can't do this to consumers, and thus the allowance for the $40 for analog converter boxes got started. Like I said, some countries have yet to really make the transition as well, because of these kind of fears.

I sort of wish Analog was still around, digital TV has been a pita for me sense it became required. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, there's no in-between (unless you count stuttering heavily corrupted video/audio).

Video has no real standardizations.

Yes you're right, I worded that poorly. What I meant was that said technologies are designed to be largely portable, and easily integrateable and emulatable on a large number of devices. This is not possible with consoles because it's an issue of emulating hardware as opposed to porting software (or emulating an OS).

The problem with going to CD at the time is that people did not have the power to create their own storage off of it, or create their own software that utilized it.

Yea it was sort of a half-step. People kept using casette tapes for years for this very reason when it came to music. For games, MIST in the early 90s popularized it somewhat, and Lucas did several adventure titles with it, but it didn't really take off until about 1996 or so which was close to the time when the first consumer CD burners became available. That's how I remember it at least.

Oh, of course not. If your VHS deteriorated, we are obligated to buy you a new one. Did you keep it in a car and it bubbled? Did your VCR eat it? VHS tapes had a LOT of risks as well, and it certainly was not a perfect medium. Tapes were fragile. I've broken quite a few of them. (My biggest heartbreak as a kid was when I broke a Danger Mouse tape I searched EVERYWHERE to find and begged my parents to get. I never got it back after it happened, since they used it as a lesson to be more careful with my stuff. And I was much more careful.)

VHS certainly had issues, but if the deck broke or it ate one of your tapes your entire library didn't go up in flames either. One item breaking should never equate to many things due to association.

Digital products can have value to them. (I mean, if you claim it doesn't, then suddenly ANY of the work I do, as a web developer, has no value to it at all. That's BS, because it's hard work to put it together.)

Digital goods have value, but it's not 1/1 with tangible goods. As a web developer your value lies not only in your product, but in the services you provide to your clients while creating and in maintaining that product.

most services provide a means to backup what you purchase digitally. I have not deleted any of my PSP games off of my PS3. I have the hard drive space to keep them there, AND I can backup to an external hard drive and keep THAT out of use. The same with my Vita. I can backup anything I purchase on it and keep it safe should something happen to my system. Even in that case, Sony has shown that they can break the registration on games that have been tied to a particular console if it is ever stolen, as well.

Those games are tied to an account, and for a system to authenticate that account you need to rely on servers. As a result, those backups are only useful in saving bandwidth should your system need to be replaced during the time that PSN continues to exist and/or support them.

[Wyrdwad]

VHS certainly had issues, but if the deck broke or it ate one of your tapes your entire library didn't go up in flames either. One item breaking should never equate to many things due to association.

It doesn't, though. If PSN were to go down, for example, you'd still be able to play each and every game you ever downloaded from it for as long as the associated systems continue to function. And if the associated systems all break... well, you still have your game data, and hopefully Sony will provide some means of de-licensing that game data... but even if they don't, *someone* will. You keep using the word "pirate," but honestly, that's not piracy. Piracy involves the illegal distribution of goods. And there's none of that happening here.

-Tom

[Lodium]

Hmmm, i migth remember wrong about this.
But wasnt there some sort of limit on how many times you coud download the games you bougth from PSN store.
5 downloads or somethinng?

[Fabrizo]

You keep using the word "pirate," but honestly, that's not piracy. Piracy involves the illegal distribution of goods. And there's none of that happening here.

For the purposes of removing DRM and restrictions from your games, the two parties do have a significant amount of overlap. however you're right, I've been using the words interchangeably, and it's probably not fair to either party so I'll try to avoid it from now on.

[Slur]

So when are you guys going to let this thread die again?

[KnightofAncient]

Hmmm, i migth remember wrong about this.
But wasnt there some sort of limit on how many times you coud download the games you bougth from PSN store.
5 downloads or somethinng?

No, that limit is to how many consoles that certain game can be activated on. I think that number was reduced to 3, not sure I have to check Sony's TOS.

[Megamixer]

It doesn't, though. If PSN were to go down, for example, you'd still be able to play each and every game you ever downloaded from it for as long as the associated systems continue to function.

Not Bionic Commando: Rearmed 2 and Final Fight: Double Impact... If you're not signed into PSN you're unable to play them. Thank good ol' Capcom for this.

[majestix1988]

Maybe Ask Xseed for physical edition with Limited Edition things(you know with free things) but its little pricey*

[PringlesXD]

Why do people have to create thread like this all the time? Sigh. :/

[Emilio]

I don't consider you a villain in any way and neither does my brother that is here in these forums. The only thing is that your approach on your arguments sometimes feel like your insulting people thats only what me and my brother think though.