Keep the PSP alive! [Archive]

rpgfan

10-08-2011, 09:17 PM

What’s wrong with the PSP? The PSP is awesome! Still my favorite gaming system, even after all these years.

Plus, remember: We go where the good games are. And right now, the vast majority of quality Japanese titles that haven’t seen an English release are on handheld systems. And those games that aren’t tend to be unavailable for licensing, unreasonably expensive to license or have already been licensed by someone else.

The PSP is an absolute goldmine of extremely high-quality Japanese titles right now, and we’re not about to leave English-speaking PSP gamers starved for content when there’s a mouth-watering feast overseas, you know?

Posts like this make me smile. Keep bringing more of those PSP games here, so we don't have to starve.

Seriously, wishing for them is painful.:p

EDIT: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/10/07/just-what-kind-of-a-party-is-corpse-party/comment-page-2/#comments

Ryos

10-08-2011, 09:45 PM

Where's that post at? But anyway, while the PSP is my favorite system, I suspect we won't see too much else. While there is an INSANE number of quality games that are untouched, the fact is that the Vita's right around the corner. Japan always tends to have games come out even after the newest systems are available. And for some reason, people automatically assume older system=pointless. Not sure why, but that's just how it is...

Fabrizo

10-08-2011, 10:33 PM

Can you even imagine if after Playstation 3 came out no more PS2 games were released over here? We would have never got Persona 3, Persona 4, GrimGrimoire, Odin Sphere, Rogue Galaxy, etc.

Ryos

10-08-2011, 10:46 PM

Persona 4 in and of itself is proof why older generation systems shouldn't be discounted automatically when determining what to localize. I wish our PSP market were as vibrant as Japan's. :(

AngrySalesMonkey

10-11-2011, 09:16 PM

Shizuka

10-11-2011, 09:45 PM

PringlesXD

10-21-2011, 01:01 AM

I'm glad I was able to buy a PSP. And I'm glad XSEED has released many great games for it.

Shizuka

10-21-2011, 01:20 AM

I'm glad I was able to buy a PSP. And I'm glad XSEED has released many great games for it.

And I'm glad I got to convince you into buying TitS. We're all glad, XSEED.

Echiboo

10-24-2011, 11:59 PM

There's still a massive pile of PSP games that haven't left Japan that I'd absolutely LOVE to be able to play at some point...So I hope the PSP doesn't die anytime soon. >.<

PringlesXD

10-25-2011, 12:10 AM

Let's keep the PSP alive, yay ~

Redhorse

10-25-2011, 01:37 AM

The PSP has my favorite portable games on it, and there's still so many more I'd pay to play~
So don't let it die out, yet. You guys can still squeeze money out of it. =D

PringlesXD

10-25-2011, 03:00 PM

I have a question. Will the Vita be more succesful over here? Any expectation?

Ryos

10-25-2011, 05:08 PM

I have a question. Will the Vita be more succesful over here? Any expectation?

Hard to say. There's no legitimate reason why the PSP shouldn't be doing half as well here as in Japan but for obvious reasons, it isn't. But the Vita has Ys which means that I'm in for it one way or the other. :P If the 3DS continues to flounder, that would potentially help out with Vita's success, but then the wildly popular DS was not a great moneymaker for a lot of companies over here because of the costs for the carts.

Fabrizo

10-25-2011, 05:54 PM

Vita will do fine.

The only thing I think they're really messing up on is the save system (http://andriasang.com/comyqn/).

WanderingMind

11-05-2011, 12:03 AM

I still remember when I got the PSP when it first came out and complaining about how I couldn't find anything good for the system that I wanted to play. But a lot of great games have been released for the system over the last few years. It's like RPG heaven to me. Sure, the UMD wasn't the best of formats, and had issues with load times, but still, it ended up being an awesome system. And I like to thank XSEED for bringing a lot of games over for it. I'd love to see the PSP kept alive.

Zackk

11-05-2011, 11:22 AM

Same for me but I keep complaining.
The PSP market here in Europe is awful. Lot of games that comes in US don't cross the ocean and worse, even the games that finally comes get near impossible to found, at least in France.
For example Ghostlight released of Persona 3...it was a total mess here, the games shop don't want it...but finally after months of complaining from gamers it come out...but way to late.
Same goes for Persona 2 and Trails In The Sky...
I personally don't care a lot cause I imported most of my games but it's a shame cause lot of peoples don't have the possibility.

Anyway thanks to Xseed to keep it up.

Dice

11-06-2011, 12:44 AM

I think there is a good chance the VITA will be much more popular. It's getting a lot of developer support so far, and that's always a good start. If people aren't attracted to the 3DS, especially since graphics are it's major issue (in whatever way you take that), maybe the VITA will - literally - be more visually appealing.

If the Vita carries what the PSP did, then that is more than enough for me.

Shizuka

11-06-2011, 12:48 AM

The PSP was Sony's first real foray on the portable gaming market, we can all see they're actually learning with their mistakes and improving the portable experience, instead of the re-designed DS Nintendo created on this generation.

PringlesXD

11-06-2011, 12:56 AM

Aw, Sony. ♥

Dice

11-06-2011, 12:57 AM

It would have been nice if the 3DS is a bit more capable, graphic-wise. I think it needs a few more titles to really propel it forward (lord knows a Pokemon game will do that)...

The [normal]DS *did* prove that the dual-screen was a great gimmick (clearly the 3D aspect hasn't taken as strongly).

Gintoki

11-06-2011, 01:10 AM

The thing that keeps Nintendo portables strong in the west is obviously their first party titles like Mario and Mario Kart, along with Pokemon. There wasn't a lot of western support for the psp, and it doesn't have franchises that are as widely known. I think the Vita's success in the west hinges on games that appeal to that market. I think the Uncharted game should be a good starting point, but we'll see how things go.

WanderingMind

11-06-2011, 02:01 AM

As long as the Vita has a better launch than the PSP, I'll be happy.

PringlesXD

11-06-2011, 03:50 AM

Well, it has very big expectations. So I think it'll do better than the PSP.

Nephlabobo

11-07-2011, 05:57 AM

The PSP has my favorite portable games on it, and there's still so many more I'd pay to play~
So don't let it die out, yet. You guys can still squeeze money out of it. =D

*cough*Corpse Party*cough*

AlrightYa

11-07-2011, 05:42 PM

I just picked up Fate/Extra this past Tuesday. Corpse Party comes out in a couple weeks and then Grand Knights History some time early next year. What else is still coming out for the PSP that is worth looking into???

Gintoki

11-07-2011, 06:07 PM

I think Aksys is bringing over Hakuoki (if you're into that kinda thing) and Nisa is bringing over Black Rock Shooter. Other than that I'm not sure.

AlrightYa

11-07-2011, 06:12 PM

Actually I am looking forward to both of those games. I don't think Black Rock Shooter has a release date yet from what I've heard and Hakouki is early next year. Also, Final Fantasy Type-O looks interesting if/when it comes out to the states. Also, the rest of LoH: TitS saga if it ever comes out. Might be on Vita by the time they are made.

Shizuka

11-07-2011, 06:13 PM

Other than Fate/Extra and Hakuoki (Aksys), Corpse Party and Grand Knights History (XSEED), Black Rock Shooter (NISA), there aren't any announced upcoming niche games for the PSP.

Fabrizo

11-07-2011, 06:37 PM

Check out the "Upcoming" section at the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Portable_games

Japan is still getting a lot of games, but the selection has become very limited for everyone else.

PringlesXD

11-07-2011, 06:41 PM

Other than Fate/Extra and Hakuoki (Aksys), Corpse Party and Grand Knights History (XSEED), Black Rock Shooter (NISA), there aren't any announced upcoming niche games for the PSP.

And they're all awesome games I'm going to buy. ♥
I just hope Square Enix localized FF Type-0.

suashi

11-07-2011, 06:42 PM

I think Aksys is bringing over Hakuoki (if you're into that kinda thing)

Definitely relevant to my interests. *waves mini 2/15/2012 flag*

Shizuka

11-07-2011, 06:46 PM

Definitely relevant to my interests. *waves mini 2/15/2012 flag*

Are you being ironic?

suashi

11-07-2011, 06:51 PM

Are you being ironic?

Nope! I'm looking forward to it. Do I have the release date wrong or something?

Shizuka

11-07-2011, 06:52 PM

No, but I thought you were because of the PSV release near that date.

Tiamat

11-11-2011, 04:03 PM

Are you being ironic?

I think you mean "sarcastic"

PringlesXD

11-11-2011, 04:09 PM

What's the difference again?

Tiamat

11-11-2011, 04:28 PM

I looked them up and it seems that ironic works there afterall, I'm just not used to it being used like that. I think the thing is that usually someone doesn't say the opposite of what they mean (irony) unless they are making fun of something by doing so (sarcasm). Sarcasm is the use of irony to make fun of something.

perrandy

11-11-2011, 04:37 PM

gonna buy cp as soon as it comes out.but truly,i'm not interested in online games or otome games for that matter.dont get me wrong i enjoy shoujos but i dont think that i would enjoy an otome game...

but, i truly support this thread :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY&ob=av3eXD

PringlesXD

11-11-2011, 04:50 PM

i'm not interested in online games or otome games for that matter.

That is a sad. :(

Akai Shuichi

11-11-2011, 04:54 PM

That is a sad. :(

Though I agree with him...I used to enjoy online games, but after many years, they became boring...too much grinding and stuff, too little story.

About otome games...why would I play one if I can play galges? xD

With that being said...PSP FTW!!

Chaosblade

11-11-2011, 05:18 PM

That is a sad. :(
The online game part or the otome game part? I'd guess the latter is probably a pretty common sentiment, especially among guys :p

PringlesXD

11-11-2011, 09:11 PM

The online game part...

majestix1988

12-06-2011, 09:53 AM

If you want to keep PSP alive

1. Ask someone to make Fansites(on Social networking site like Facebook or watever) this thing is good[even its boost sale a little but a curiosity of a game make sales)
2. Invite friends/Play with your Friends(Monster Hunter style!)[mostly why PSP sales at japan they make games to be social-goody for gamers are bad communication]
3.Buy Limited Edition[yeah it helps a little for publishers so a little boost]

Lumina

12-06-2011, 11:52 AM

I'm pretty worried about how Hakuoki will do honestly.

I really wanted to be excited about the game, but I like many other guys will be passing on it based on the sheer fact that I don't want to be going after other men in the game, and it sounds like (after prodding the staff at Aksys on their forums) while it's not the primary focus of the game, it's pretty much unavoidable and that pretty well put me off the game. I really wish you could skip the romance bit altogether and just focus on the story.

I wish Aksys luck on this though, it's a pretty risky endeavor.

PringlesXD

12-06-2011, 12:39 PM

Lumina

12-06-2011, 12:45 PM

I've never quite understood the decision to do go with an otome game either, with all of the other potential choices. I mean I know some folk like yourself are able to look past the otome nature of the game, but I've seen an equal amount saying they're passing on it. The "HOT MEN!" marketing they're doing for it isn't really helping matters either.

I'd love to support Aksys, because I enjoy the work they do, but I just can't get behind this game.

PringlesXD

12-06-2011, 01:11 PM

Hahaha. The main reason I'm picking this up is because of the art, though.

Crimson Cloud

12-06-2011, 07:49 PM

I watched anime and it was solid... but getting a Hakuoki game...eh... is really not my style, support or not. The girl gamers should pick it up though.
On the other hand, this game makes a nice gift for your girlfriend, if she is into gaming. :p

Ryos

12-06-2011, 08:32 PM

I know I'm getting it, even though I have to go for men.
I really like the artwork, and the story is fun, too. Although I do agree with you. They could have translated a normal Visual Novel instead of an Otome game.

Of the many translating decisions I've seen, Hakuoki is certainly one of the most unusual I've seen. I'll end up picking it up because I can easily put aside the whole I'm not a female in real life issue, but eh, guess we'll see. :P All I can figure is that that and Fate/Extra must have been available dirt cheap and thus worth a gamble.

NatsuChan

12-07-2011, 10:01 PM

Hakuoki is on my buy list. Those guys are hot although I wish the heroine Chizuru participated in combat more.

Gintoki

12-07-2011, 10:17 PM

Ahaha, so I'm not alone in passing on Hakuoki because its an otome game. *sigh of relief*

I hope it works out for them, but its definitely not my cup of tea.

Shizuka

12-07-2011, 11:22 PM

I don't really think I'll be getting Hakuoki, but maybe that can change if they said that they'd do the PS3 version if the PSP version is successful.

Lumina

12-08-2011, 12:36 PM

Just out of pure curiosity, if you would consider a PS3 version, what's making you pass on the PSP version?

Shizuka

12-08-2011, 05:06 PM

I don't like Visual Novels on portable systems. That's why I'll never get Umineko Portable (and because I already bought the PS3 version).

Akai Shuichi

12-08-2011, 07:37 PM

I'd definitely get Umineko portable...but I'd prefer to understand something...

PringlesXD

12-08-2011, 08:09 PM

I'll take anything, as long as it's fun. :)

Megamixer

12-08-2011, 08:19 PM

This is a Hakuoki thread now? Well count me in for a copy of it. I've always wanted to try a true VN game, and I'd like to see more get brought over regardless of which gender they cater to. Hot men? Hot women? Who cares! If the art is visually appealing I'll go both ways. :p Besides, the real important part is the story which from what little I've heard about it is pretty good.

Shizuka

12-08-2011, 09:08 PM

How about someone creates a Hakuoki topic and leave this one for XSEED and PSP love?

PringlesXD

12-09-2011, 12:44 AM

Hm... I could do it. But I don't want to.

Suou

12-09-2011, 12:55 AM

the psp is dying?
there are still LOTS of games being released. and so many in the game stores near me.
though only the games from japan mostly interest me nowadays.
Though i doubt VNs will get localization...well thats fine i got walkthroughs xD

Raguna

12-09-2011, 12:59 AM

Well NIS America did release one but I doubt it was very successful. Though I like that you got to see the Disgaea crew all over again. Can't wait if they actually make a Disgaea 5 but thats just me.

Shizuka

12-09-2011, 01:16 AM

Disgaea 5 will happen, just like Metal Gear Solid 5 and all other inevitable sequels.

PringlesXD

12-09-2011, 01:43 AM

I still have to buy Disgaea 4.

GeekyJuuu

12-09-2011, 04:36 PM

I hope that with the small successes of games such as Fate/Extra, Corpse Party, ect. that the PSP manages to coexist with the Vita in the US for a little while. There's so many great games that just didn't make the jump-keep them coming, XSEED, and I'll keep buying them! :D

lopez

12-12-2011, 05:52 PM

I'd love to see Xseed localize more PSP games, even though I can't download any of them...:(

PringlesXD

12-12-2011, 05:53 PM

I'd love to see Xseed localize more PSP games, even though I can't download any of them...:(

You don't have a PSP?

rpgfan

12-15-2011, 04:47 PM

I hope they localize Elminage 3 and Toheart 2 Dungeon Travelers. More dungeon crawling love!

Crimson Cloud

12-16-2011, 09:59 AM

Toheart 2 Dungeon Travelers.

Yes! YES!!!
Damn, that would be really awesome.

But honestly, I'm itching for any kind of RPG for PSP at the moment.

majestix1988

12-23-2011, 06:28 AM

rpg rpg..all i want....

sanddeamon

02-07-2012, 06:01 AM

we dont seem to get many titles here that strike me fancy, what ever i ordered came from e bay, or xseed stores XD and enjoying the psp still while i can: ys 1-2 chronicles, ys seven, ys ark of naphishtim, final fantasy dissidia, and few lego titles :)
looking foward to the latest ys on vita, and what ever else offered, but, im still gonna play my old formats while i can [ ps2 still alive, barely :P]

link6616

02-21-2012, 11:00 PM

Elminage 3... Oh that would be nice... Probably can't compete with EOIII in the west though since EO managed to establish some name for itself.

Peekachu

02-24-2012, 02:26 PM

I think in the end it's going to come down to how many people download PSP titles to their Vita that will determine if more PSP games make it over or not. UMD is tough in terms of both placement and sales, but if we can be reasonably sure that we can at least breakeven on post Vita launch PSP titles by having Vita users download a good share of PSP titles, there's tons of great PSP games in Japan that it could open the doors to for us.

I know that the general JRPGophile populace are really into their collectors editions w/ CDs/ plushies/ whatever, but I'm a huge proponent of digital if only for the fact that it allows publishers to take risks in getting the content to the West in the first place. I haven't bought a physical PSP game since they started launching them on the PSN. And if it allows XSEED (or other niche publishers) to have a smaller loss margin and better profits when localizing niche titles (it is a business afterall), digital is the way to go. With the perceived market for most of the titles we're clamouring for, its digital or nothing. Currently, a physical PSP release for a niche title at NA retail is essentially setting fire to a pile of money. Plus, PSP games look SWEET all upscaled and smoothed on the Vita.

Edit: Carpe Fulgur are a good example of a publisher whose releases would bankrupt them at retail. They've found great success with their digital only strategy.

raz0rback2

02-24-2012, 04:59 PM

Chaosblade

02-24-2012, 05:04 PM

Edit: Carpe Fulgur are a good example of a publisher whose releases would bankrupt them at retail. They've found great success with their digital only strategy.

To be fair, most PC developers/publishers would probably fail if they tried retail. It's not really comparable. I'm not sure how well Corpse Party did, but if it sold relatively well that could be used as evidence for DD only PSN games. I know it's topped the PSN charts like every month since it was released, but that doesn't mean much since we have no context (it could be selling 15 copies a month and all the other games are just selling less, and that would be pretty terrible).

fedaykin

02-24-2012, 05:11 PM

I still have to buy Disgaea 4.
I'm still up to Disgaea 2 myself, so Disgaea 3 is one of my temptations for a vita. Or a PS3 I suppose, although my apartment is tiny and I dont have a TV. Keep the PSP alive for people with small homes!

Peekachu

02-24-2012, 05:12 PM

Download only is def better than not having those games, you're right on that.

But I'm against a download only strategy. As you said I like those collectors and bought nearly all of them by XSEED.

I think XSEED is yet a small company and they cannot throw 10 games a year at us. Maybe it's better to be small and have some of those niche titles that we all love than being riped-off from a company like EA, ActiBlizz and those other criminals :D

XSEED should keep it that way. In my opinion they'll do it right how they do it now.

I hear ya, but I'd take 15-20 niche titles per year, over what we're getting now if that meant that they all had to be download only. Really game industry physical retail - as we know it - will die, its just a matter of when. They're 99% crap, but the iOS in two years has easily accumulated more JRPGs/ Korean RPGs than the entire DS and PSP libraries combined. There are some quality entries too, like FFT, Ghost Trick, Chaos Rings, Crimson Gem, Adventure Bar Story, Lunar (coming), FFIII, etc. The reason why these games can be ported/ developed so fast is because they have a negligible amount of marketing and production overhead and effort compared to physical games.

Collector's paraphernalia is great, but I'd rather have the games. If XSEED was to increase their output and go digital only over the next few years, I be more than happy. Besides, a publishers online store (NISA/ XSEED/ Atlus) could still be used to stock all the plushies and Cosmosphere calendars you would ever want :)

Shizuka

02-24-2012, 05:22 PM

15 copies a month wouldn't be an accurate number, since it's getting 50~150 new ratings every month, it'd probably be a lot more.

Peekachu

02-24-2012, 05:23 PM

To be fair, most PC developers/publishers would probably fail if they tried retail. It's not really comparable. I'm not sure how well Corpse Party did, but if it sold relatively well that could be used as evidence for DD only PSN games. I know it's topped the PSN charts like every month since it was released, but that doesn't mean much since we have no context (it could be selling 15 copies a month and all the other games are just selling less, and that would be pretty terrible).

I think it is comparable, an unknown venture (publishing PC JRPGs in the West) into an uncertain market that met with success. PC sector has decent indie support, but JRPGs aren't indie, artsy or experimental (well they can be), they're a specific genre that until recently the Western PC gamer showed little interest in. And that's what I'm getting at. Encouraging more niche publishers to produce quality content without the risk. PSP/ PSN section aside, there's little in the console space that fills this particular need or that is established enough to judge whether such a venture would or would not be successful. There wasn't a market for PC JPRGs either (outside of Japan, obviously), at least not a known one and look what Carpe Fulgur did. I'm willing to bet that if great JRPGs started trickling into the North American PSN, XBL, whatever people would swallow the need for physical media and frippery and download them.

That's my take anyhow.

Chaosblade

02-24-2012, 06:36 PM

I just meant DD on PC isn't really the same as consoles. Digital distribution pretty much is PC gaming, while consoles are very much physical-oriented. I don't think console gamers will take near as kindly to digital only releases yet.

Had Carpe Fulgur started up back in 2004-2005 or so, I don't think they would have been successful.

Edit: That doesn't mean I don't think publishers can find success with digital console games though. But even XSEED staff have come out and said that digital will almost definitely mean lower sales and market penetration. It won't reach as many people. It does make up for that with more profit per sale (not sure about PSN, but it's probably somewhere in the ballpark of 2x the revenue for XSEED - selling Corpse Party for $20 on PSN should have gotten them more revenue per copy sold than a $30 retail copy).

Elvick

02-29-2012, 08:47 AM

I know that I'd have bought Corpse Party long ago if it were at retail, but as it is I'm just like meh... I can't get that excited for a download of data. I still believe the best way is to do both. Hell, give me a kickstarter page for a physical release and I'd help support it.

Maybe that's something Xseed should look into. Kickstarter I mean.

Tsuko

03-01-2012, 11:58 PM

Atlus is doing just that with Growlanser IV and Gungnir coming out in NA this summer and releasing a remake of the second part of Persona 2 on PSP which will make its way here
I'm pretty sure that Xseed probaly already has Corpse Party 2 planned for a English release

Gintoki

03-02-2012, 12:24 AM

And apparently Black Rock Shooter is coming...some day..ahaha

Raguna

03-02-2012, 12:28 AM

I wonder when though. I'm surprised as how NISA actually got the game to be released here.

PringlesXD

03-02-2012, 12:32 AM

Hopefully they'll announce the release date after Meruru is released.

Phoenix_Apollo

03-03-2012, 04:59 AM

From what I remember hearing though, NISA's going to release collectibles for BRS, but only a code for the game on PSN. So, I'm kinda indifferent to that.

Plus, it really baffles me how they'll do that and license a bunch of anime subs, yet refuse to work for the rights to publish the La Pucelle PSP remake in America.

Fabrizo

03-03-2012, 06:31 AM

Ryos

03-03-2012, 12:36 PM

BRS going digital-only or having a UMD print run is still up in the air last I heard, with them leaning more towards DD only. Personally I'm completely against limited editions for digital-only products, it seems deceptive and pointless.

Unless they've changed their mind (I know it cooled me off pretty highly on the idea), NISA was planning to go with only an LE with a DD code. I was totally down for an LE until they mentioned that detail. We probably won't know until the game's available for preorder, if then. :\