Destructoid Review

[Nephlabobo]

http://www.destructoid.com/review-solatorobo-red-the-hunter-212734.phtml

It boggles my mind that sites let dudebro shooter lovers review JRPGs.

[Shizuka]

I've seen that they trashed the game and honestly, I couldn't care less about their reviews anyway.

[Ventara]

I give the game a 15/10, so if we average things out between this and my (futuristic) review, Solatorobo is doing well with a 9.5. Not too shabby at all.

[Shizuka]

It'd be nice to have a reviews topic designed for both professional and amateur reviews.

[Ventara]

Mine would be the professional one, right?

[Nephlabobo]

It'd be nice to have a reviews topic designed for both professional and amateur reviews.

Well Destructoid's certainly wasn't professional.

[ojsinnerz]

People still take Destructoid seriously? Their reviews crack me up.

[perrandy]

People still take Destructoid seriously? Their reviews crack me up.yeah i just read it and i was laughing at it.make no mistake these guys hate the game because it doesnt have "gunz"and stuff.well, to each its own i'm gonna try the game as soon as i can thats for sure...oh and poor stealth these guys gave him a really hard time in the forums

[fedaykin]

Well, he wouldn't have gotten onto the front page of Metacritic without a really scathing final score. Despite saying the game is too easy and a bit repetitive, he does note "Solatorobo's lively, detailed world and graphics that manage to impress, despite being on a seven-year-old system", so I don't think the actual review is that ridiculous. Pinsof just didn't like the gameplay and focus on worldbuilding. Even if he really disliked the game, one might also surmise that he thought a lower score than would be objectively justified (given that he doesn't deny many of the game's strong points) would garner some attention..

... which it apparently has done. :)

[Zeta]

People still take Destructoid seriously? Their reviews crack me up.

Wait. We're not talking about IGN? O_o??


...also, lol Stealth XD



And for the record, I stand behind Destructoid's reviews...
...just not the ones done by Allistair Pinsoff.



http://www.destructoid.com/review-solatorobo-red-the-hunter-212734.phtml

It boggles my mind that sites let dudebro shooter lovers review JRPGs.

You do know that we're talking about a website that gave Disgaea 4 the same score as Gears of War 3, right?

[ojsinnerz]

Wait. We're not talking about IGN? O_o??


...also, lol Stealth XD



And for the record, I stand behind Destructoid's reviews...
...just not the ones done by Allistair Pinsoff.




You do know that we're talking about a website that gave Disgaea 4 the same score as Gears of War 3, right?

Even the reviews done by Jim Sterling? Sure, he gave Deadly Premonition a 10, so what? His reviews are pretty often BS, like the Vanquish review.

[Zinf]

You do know that we're talking about a website that gave Disgaea 4 the same score as Gears of War 3, right?

Is it the content of the review or the score at the end that matters? That's my question for the review in question, too. All you have to do to "fix" the review is change the number to something a little higher.

[Shizuka]

Mine would be the professional one, right?

I'd have to read it to give my opinion, but I can tell you this...


Well Destructoid's certainly wasn't professional.

This.

[Zeta]

Is it the content of the review or the score at the end that matters? That's my question for the review in question, too. All you have to do to "fix" the review is change the number to something a little higher.


Of course the content of the opinionated review matters. I don't agree with this current review, but I just don't think it's right to brand them as being a reviewing site that only cares about bland & popular first-person shooters. Which is not the case.

[Dusty Starr]

Hmm, I found this list of incorrect points on GameFAQs, so I thought I might as well place it here.

1. It's not an RPG.
2. It's not a "spiritual successor" to Tail Concerto. Its a new title in the same franchise.
3. The quests are well-incorporated into the story; they're not just fetch quests.
4. There isn't that much crate-pushing at all.
5. His comparisons are beyond stupid and illogical. Half-Life 2? Could he pick a game more unlike Solatorobo? Did he not consider that the people who would be interested in Solatorobo may very well have never played Half-Life 2? And Cowboy Bebop? There is clearly no inspiration from that. His only apt comparison is Miyazaki, and even then he fails because it's obviously taking after stuff like Laputa.
6. It wasn't in production for 10 years. I'm starting to notice this misinformation spreading. There was no "pre-production" for 7 years. Prior to the 3 years of development, CC2 was simply trying to get the go-ahead on the project. So while you can say that the idea was in the making for 10 years, it certainly wasn't in production or pre-production for 7.
7. Chocolat wasn't adopted by Red or anybody else. They're just two orphans that decided to live like brother and sister.
8. Tail Concerto isn't an action-RPG. It's a platformer.
9. Tail Concerto doesn't play much like Mega Man Legends at all. It's more of a visual similarity, and some plot similarities.
10. The main game is more around 20 hours, although if this guy rushed through it and skipped everything he could then, yeah, maybe he got 15.
11. He's got no soul if he doesn't find the cast endearing and the overall plot and experience captivating, but I guess that's just my own opinion here.
12. You get more to the gameplay than he's described in 10 hours.
13. Many of the most critically acclaimed games are extremely easy. Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Ocarina of Time, just to name a few. I can all but guarantee that this reviewer loves at least one game that's quite easy, so his talk of feeling insulted by the difficulty like the game is for babies and that it's a huge problem is BS. I appreciate a good challenge myself, but I also recognize that sometimes a game is so amazing and fun to play that it doesn't matter that the difficulty is low. This is one such game.
14. Catching objects is quite frequent. It's a complete lie to suggest that it's only on rare occasions.
15. The fishing mini-game doesn't take that long. He probably sucks at it.
16. Kittens carry photos, not pigs. Clearly he was barely paying attention as he played the game.
17. You aren't required to collect much of anything, so there's no reason why the player should feel overwhelmed/exhausted/depressed about. It's all optional.
18. If anyone should feel insulted, it's other reviewers and fans of this game. He's implying that anyone who enjoys the game ONLY likes it because of the world, plot, and characters. He's diminishing our opinions and acting like it's impossible for people to actually enjoy the full package, even all of the gameplay.


Poster being Aussie2B.

[Zeta]

Hmm, I found this list of incorrect points on GameFAQs, so I thought I might as well place it here.
Poster being Aussie2B.

You're posting about what someone said on GameFAQs. GAMEFAQS.
That's practically a given that they'd be ignorant and incorrect about quite a bit of information.

[Lumina]

Yea, really bad review, and I'm not even whiteknighting for XSEED.

I'm afraid there are games that some people just don't understand. I mean take Atelier Rorona for example, the game is extremely easy and the actual gameplay itself very simple, but it's not meant to be difficult or complex. In my opinion it's all about getting lost in the beautifully crafted world and just enjoying the characters, the dialogue, and the overall experience.

I have a feeling this game borders on that sort of experience as well, or at least that's what I'm hoping for.

[Dusty Starr]

Does that make Tom incorrect when he posts on GameFAQs? :/

[Zeta]

GameFAQs is not a place you go for research on what a game is like.

Many of the users there will make sure of that. Some will help you, but they are few and far between.
Sorry, but it's become just another IGN over the past few years.


Many of the Walkthroughs are good though =D

[Gintoki]

Yea, really bad review, and I'm not even whiteknighting for XSEED.

I'm afraid there are games that some people just don't understand. I mean take Atelier Rorona for example, the game is extremely easy and the actual gameplay itself very simple, but it's not meant to be difficult or complex. In my opinion it's all about getting lost in the beautifully crafted world and just enjoying the characters, the dialogue, and the overall experience.

I have a feeling this game borders on that sort of experience as well, or at least that's what I'm hoping for.

Yup! Thats what I'm hoping too. I really loved Brave Story and Atelier Rorona for those reasons. I mean, who said a game has to be difficult to be enjoyable?

[Shizuka]

Does that make Tom incorrect when he posts on GameFAQs? :/

Not if he's talking about BACON.

[Dusty Starr]

I never claimed that it was such a place. I do not see what difference it makes; most of the points in the post seem fair enough. I just thought it would be relevant, and easier than picking the review apart myself. :/ Sorry, I suppose.

[Shizuka]

I never claimed that it was such a place. I do not see what difference it makes; most of the points in the post seem fair enough. I just thought it would be relevant, and easier than picking the review apart myself. :/ Sorry, I suppose.

It's all good, don't worry.

[Zeta]

It's all good, don't worry.

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

[Ivol]

I stopped taking the review seriously when they compare it to Half-Life 2...

[Dusty Starr]

I am horrible at letting things go... but alright. :3

[Gintoki]

He forgot to mention that you also can not teabag your foes' corpses. Such a shame. ;)

[Obviously]

Considering the things he was comparing the game to, Cowboy Bebop, Half Life 2 (???) etc. I think it was clear that this game was not going to be the reviewer's cup of tea from the start. I think he has some valid complaints especially with the combat system but it's obvious his personal tastes are writing most of the review for him.

[Shizuka]

Considering the things he was comparing the game to, Cowboy Bebop, Half Life 2 (???) etc. I think it was clear that this game was not going to be the reviewer's cup of tea from the start. I think he has some valid complaints especially with the combat system but it's obvious his personal tastes are writing most of the review for him.

Obviously. Destructoid reviews are often entertaining but only if you consider as biased, amateur reviews.

[Juanblue85]

I was shocked to see the game getting a review like that on Destructoid they obviously let someone who either didn't like the game period do the review but their opinion didn't change mine at all because I was dead set on getting the game whether it reviewed good or badly but so far the reviews have been good so heck haters gonna hate.

[Fabrizo]

I sort of wish this review didn't exist just because it makes the games metacritic score lower, and I know some people base their game purchases on that :(