Dragon Quest X

[WoottWinds]

EDIT: DQX re-announced for the Wii and Wii U with some apparent 3DS Streetpass connectivity. Wii U will feature improved graphics, and both versions will be online. Here's a few screencaps I took of the trailer on my laptop...

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[Nephlabobo]

Watched the trailer, thought it looked awesome.

Then they announce that.......


It's online.

An online RPG.

On the Wii.

This is going to be a cluster BACONBACONBACONBACON of immense proportions.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/05/dq_press_conference/

[Cloud]

I'm excited, but I'm trying not to get too excited. Hopefully the online is decent enough (was Monster Hunter any good in this regard?), because even though I liked IX, I'd rather not play another DQ like it all by lonesome again. ='(

[WoottWinds]

It's coming out for Wii U too, no need to flip out. Sounds like there is going to be some sort of 3DS connectivity as well. Gameplay stuff looked great, really looking forward to this.

[Nephlabobo]

For the love of god, is it impossible to make a single player RPG without "social media", "online play" or any of that sort of crap anymore?

Not every BACONBACONBACONBACONing game needs multiplayer!

[Cloud]

You can play it by yourself, calm down.

There's no harm in having the option there for those who would like to play with friends.

[WoottWinds]

I'm excited, but I'm trying not to get too excited. Hopefully the online is decent enough (was Monster Hunter any good in this regard?), because even though I liked IX, I'd rather not play another DQ like it all by lonesome again. ='(

Definitely. That's something I always worry about as I've never really gotten into MMOs before, but would really like to try and play along with others. I figured they were going to take IX and expand on its online and connectivity for X and it's looking like that's indeed where they're going, hopefully it all works out in the end.

[Nephlabobo]

That seems a bit disingenuous. It looks clearly modeled after something like PSO.

[Gintoki]

Its gonna be on Wii and Wii U, and it sounds like you can transfer your characters or something along those lines to your 3DS for Streetpass stuff.

Honestly though, if the offline is just like 9, with no real party members, just personality-less lumps that you make, I'm not all that interested in it.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

That's something I felt was missing from 9 as well. I really enjoy the party talk a lot, made me feel I was right there with them. I think they should have one non-custom guy in your party at all times or something.

[Takao]

You can play it by yourself, calm down.

There's no harm in having the option there for those who would like to play with friends.

With AI bots. There was no mention that this game has an "offline" mode at all. In fact, to save their progress with the AI bots, they had to log out of the servers.

[Nephlabobo]

Kotaku is saying there will be a subscription fee.

http://kotaku.com/5837325/dragon-que...bscription-fee

So much for the offline play.

And the Wii and Wii-U versions won't be released concurrently. So I guess they are expecting people to buy it twice?

[Adrian-kun]

Watch the trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_256883&feature=iv&v=Hh8VsWzF9UM

[WoottWinds]

I would hold out for more info before jumping to conclusions. They haven't said anything about paying for playing solely offline, and DQX's Wii U release may be TBA because the Wii U's release itself is TBA, so they might still have a chance to come out simultaneously. And if I recall correctly there are some other MMO type games in Japan (like Monster Hunter) that charge subscription fees, while the same games released in the US do not. At this point, who knows how everything will work? I think it's going to be a while before we find out every little detail, I'm sure they'll flesh all of it out in due time.

[Takao]

I would hold out for more info before jumping to conclusions. They haven't said anything about paying for playing solely offline, and DQX's Wii U release may be TBA because the Wii U's release itself is TBA, so they might still have a chance to come out simultaneously. And if I recall correctly there are some other MMO type games in Japan (like Monster Hunter) that charge subscription fees, while the same games released in the US do not. At this point, who knows how everything will work? I think it's going to be a while before we find out every little detail, I'm sure they'll flesh all of it out in due time.

They haven't said there's an offline mode. As I mentioned before, you're online even when you're playing just by yourself with the AI bots.

As for the dates, it's obvious the Wii U version comes later. They aren't going to release them simultaneously unless they want one version to not sell at all.

[WoottWinds]

They haven't said there's an offline mode. As I mentioned before, you're online even when you're playing just by yourself with the AI bots.

As for the dates, it's obvious the Wii U version comes later. They aren't going to release them simultaneously unless they want one version to not sell at all.

"14:30: The next theme is things that may relieve those worried about online games. You'll be able to logout easily, for instance. You won't have to play with others -- the game can be cleared 100% on your own, using NPC characters. The commands will be familiar."

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/09/05/dq_press_conference/

Regarding the dates, I don't personally think anything is obvious at this point. I think the Wii version is there because of the original promise they made to bring it to the system, while the Wii U version is there for people looking for a graphical upgrade which is smartly not a slap-in-the-face to Wii-only owners. I believe it's perfectly plausible that they may come out around the same time. Guess we'll have to see!

[Takao]

Okay. Why did you neglect what I said about the game being online when they were supposedly demoing the game with AI party members? That quote doesn't say the game can be played offline at all. It just says you can play by yourself, which is what SE was demoing and we saw they were in fact online.

[WoottWinds]

Okay. Why did you neglect what I said about the game being online when they were supposedly demoing the game with AI party members? That quote doesn't say the game can be played offline at all. It just says you can play by yourself, which is what SE was demoing and we saw they were in fact online.

I took where it mentioned that you can "logout easily" followed by "you don't have to play with others [etc. etc.]" to mean that you can logout and play by yourself offline with the AI, similar to DQIX. I wasn't intending to be rude, that's just how I interpreted the quote.

[Takao]

I guess we'll have to see if Anoop was right, since what they did demo didn't exactly showcase offline play.

[Dogi]

People need to stop overreacting to the online. It's not PSO or FFXI, or even an mmo. It's closer to Diablo II than anything, as far as the online goes.

You can solo the whole game, or play with friends. Dragon Quest has always had a nearly perfect scenerio and synopsis for this, IX only helped to reinforce that fact.

I'm going to love the BACONBACONBACONBACON out of X, just like every other Dragon Quest.

[Megamixer]

Huh. I wonder what the odds are that this is a Wii U exclusive in the west. I have zero interest in that console so perhaps it best I don't follow this title at all. I'm already highly skeptical of it, if I'm not going to be able to play the game I shouldn't bother to get worked up over it. Here's to hoping they bring the DQ Collection over so that I once again have access to all of the real DQ games.

[Sagadego]

bad news
It says "When you start the game, the first few hours can be played offline. To play all of the game you will require an internet connection."

http://support.jp.square-enix.com/fa...aqtop&c=4&sc=0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443626&page=57

[Sgt Phantomizer]

I'm not sure whether i like the sound of DQX or not so far.

I haven't played a whole lot of DQ games, but VIII was terrific, IV was alright, Swords was also alright and IX (so far) is great. My only problem with IX is that there is not "true" online play, more like what i would consider "LAN". If DQX is more an MMO then IX, then i'm skeptical as to whether i would be interested, if there is a subscription fee, forget it. However, if it was like DQIX, but with expanded features (i.e true online play) then count me in.

It doesn't look that way though and also, this game should be a Wii-U exclusive, not that i'm saying it's going to be the best console ever, but the Wii version of DQX might "die out" sooner then the Wii-U version once that one starts to take over.

[Nephlabobo]

bad news
It says "When you start the game, the first few hours can be played offline. To play all of the game you will require an internet connection."

http://support.jp.square-enix.com/fa...aqtop&c=4&sc=0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=443626&page=57

So....DRM on the Wii?

:( Incredibly disappointing.

[Chaosblade]

I bet by "first few hours" they mean a tutorial that will be offline regardless. The game is a straight MMO, not a halfway/optional thing and that's why it requires you to be online.

Sounds pretty lame to me, but that's just because I don't like MMOs or subscription fees. Doubt it will have a fee outside Japan, but it's still an MMO and I don't need a game that's a "timekiller" like that.

[WoottWinds]

Well there goes that, not good news indeed... The game looks great, but having to be connected at all times to play always scares the crap out of me, especially on consoles. Still looking forward to it as I could see myself really getting into an online DQ as my first MMO type experience, but that definitely does put a damper on things. Hopefully the Wii U has a good online setup, I've personally never used the Wii's.

[Alkaiser]

Huh. I wonder what the odds are that this is a Wii U exclusive in the west. I have zero interest in that console so perhaps it best I don't follow this title at all. I'm already highly skeptical of it, if I'm not going to be able to play the game I shouldn't bother to get worked up over it. Here's to hoping they bring the DQ Collection over so that I once again have access to all of the real DQ games.

What exactly is a real DQ game? I'd also like to know what a fake DQ game actually is, so I can go ahead and avoid these fake DQ games and concentrate on playing these real DQ games.

... actually, this reminds me. There's a thread I feel the need to necrobump now.

[Nephlabobo]

The real DQ games are 1-8

[Chestnut Bowl]

I'm not a DQ fan so I have extremely low expectations for DQX, but I'm curious to see how well SE can pull this off. Even if it sucks, though, it'll sell millions.

[Megamixer]

By the way, why is there no "Human race" picture? You can make human characters... right? Not that I have anything against furries and whatnot, but humans always look the best to me. PSU's various clothing & race combos all pretty much sucked save for the humans. As a fan of playing dress up with characters I must know!


What exactly is a real DQ game? I'd also like to know what a fake DQ game actually is, so I can go ahead and avoid these fake DQ games and concentrate on playing these real DQ games.

Hey I didn't mean that in any negative way. As of right now DQI-IX are /real/ DQ games. I'd like to have the complete series once again which is why I hold out hope they'll localize the collection. They're bringing over the Rocket Slime, Monsters, Fortune Street, etc spinoffs. Which I'm okay with that as I've played some of them and plan to pick up Monsters 2. I'm just saying it would suck if they left the real deal behind in favor of the countless spinoffs. :)

[Dogi]

The real DQ games are 1-8

I think you mean 1-9.

[Gintoki]

Not having party members with personalities in 9 completely ruined the experience for me. And its sounds like 10 will be doing that all over again. A shame.

[Cloud]

Then you obviously didn't name your characters after friends and show them all the stupid outfits you're dressing them up in. That's what I did, made the experience pretty sweet.

[SpaceDrake]

Not having party members with personalities in 9 completely ruined the experience for me. And its sounds like 10 will be doing that all over again. A shame.

By this logic you must also dislike Dragon Quest III. You monster.

[Gintoki]

:(

Anyways, if they're gonna do multiplayer, I'd rather they do something like Secret of Mana. Other players can control the other characters, but the characters still have an identity to them. This way whether you're playing multiplayer or single player, you still get the full experience.

[Ryos]

By this logic you must also dislike Dragon Quest III. You monster.

But seriously, until the remakes virtually all the DQ games had zero characterization for main characters up until VIII...and that's it. IV-VII had some really lazy character development for the party. Consequently I don't really see this as being too much of an issue here, assuming the single player mode is 100% doable without going online.

[Dogi]

Not having party members with personalities in 9 completely ruined the experience for me. And its sounds like 10 will be doing that all over again. A shame.

I take it you've not played many Dragon Quest games. Perhaps you shouldn't be playing them.

[Nephlabobo]

I think you mean 1-9.

DQ9 is the first step off the cliff.

[Takao]

It has been confirmed that this game is pay to play.

This will be the lowest selling Dragon Quest mainline game in a very, very long time.

[Dogi]

DQ9 is the first step off the cliff.

I think you mean the first step back towards glory.

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Sorry, but i don't think a DQ MMO is the recipe for success here either <_<

I'll remain cautiously optimistic on this one, they should have built upon DQIX's great features, but not all the way towards a full-blown MMO.

[SolidusSnake]

Not a fan of MMOs so I will definitely pass on this.

[Chaosblade]

But seriously, until the remakes virtually all the DQ games had zero characterization for main characters up until VIII...and that's it. IV-VII had some really lazy character development for the party. Consequently I don't really see this as being too much of an issue here, assuming the single player mode is 100% doable without going online.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the exact opposite confirmed? You're required to be online in a persistent world, but you're not required to interact with others to complete the main story. That's what I've seen at least.

[Ryos]

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the exact opposite confirmed? You're required to be online in a persistent world, but you're not required to interact with others to complete the main story. That's what I've seen at least.

The FAQ apparently says that only the first few hours can be played but others translated it the opposite. If it's the former I can scratch this off my list. If it's the latter, I'll go for it. Given what Square's been doing though, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the first...which wouldn't hurt my feelings because I wouldn't be inspired to buy it.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

Man...I really liked the way DQ9 did online, so this is kind of disappointing for me.

[Dogi]

The FAQ apparently says that only the first few hours can be played but apparently others translated it the opposite. If it's the former I can scratch this off my list. If it's the latter, I'll go for it. Given what Square's been doing though, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the first...which wouldn't hurt my feelings because I wouldn't be inspired to buy it.

The translation circling around is from neogaf.

Horii himself said you could play and beat the story offline at the conference.


Instead of jumping on everything people on other forums are saying, I'm just waiting for SE to make an official announcement in english.

I'll be playing this either way though, my concern is the job system and how they're doing it.

[Takao]

No, Hori actually said you can "logout" and play. He never actually said you could play offline (ie: without an internet connection). He meant you didn't need to always have human companions, but could use AI.

[Dogi]

I don't exactly care if I have to be online or not. I'm always online.

And "logging out" implies not being online.

[Lumina]

I'll pass, I got way more than a my fill of pay-to-play MMOs with FFXI over the years.

There are just too many good games releasing to dedicate so much time to just one anymore.

[Nephlabobo]

I think you mean the first step back towards glory.

No, after DQ 8, DQ 9 was a giant misstep.


The translation circling around is from neogaf.

Horii himself said you could play and beat the story offline at the conference.


Instead of jumping on everything people on other forums are saying, I'm just waiting for SE to make an official announcement in english.

I'll be playing this either way though, my concern is the job system and how they're doing it.

There is no mistranslation, and it has already been confirmed by Square-Enix.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/06/you-can-play-a-few-hours-of-dragon-quest-x-offline/

Square Enix typed up a FAQ for Dragon Quest X: Waking of the Five Tribes that covers everything from the game’s title to how to connect your Wii online. The most interesting tidbit is a question that asks is it possible to play Dragon Quest X without connecting to the Internet.

You can play a few hours of the game’s opening offline, the FAQ answered, but afterwards players are required to connect to the Internet. Square Enix also says the game will have a usage fee, but the price has not been determined.

[Dogi]

I short line from the support desk. Or something said by the creator of the series live.

I'll wait for an official translation.

Also again I don't care if I have to play online or not. I am always online, whether playing on my PC, xbox, ps3 or Wii. The only time I disable wireless is on my PSP or 3DS when I'm not playing online.

And YOU think 9 is a misstep. I think 9 was great and did nearly everything right in emulating the feel of the original games. You wanted VIII again, that's cool. I didn't.

[Nephlabobo]

I short line from the support desk. Or something said by the creator of the series live.

I'll wait for an official translation.

For Christ's sake, that IS the official translation. It's on the Squeenix site!

I didn't say I wanted 8 again, I just didn't want the giant missteps that are 9 and 10.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

Just curious, what did you find wrong with 8?

[Dogi]

Just curious, what did you find wrong with 8?
Nothing, I just like III, IV, VII and IX more.


For Christ's sake, that IS the official translation. It's on the Squeenix site!

I didn't say I wanted 8 again, I just didn't want the giant missteps that are 9 and 10.

It's on the SE Japanese site. The English site doesn't even have a section for DQX yet. All the translations are from news outlets reposting a translation from neogaf since it was first.

You say IX is a misstep. I say it wasn't. A difference of opinion. So long as you say yours as fact, I'll say mine as fact.

[Nephlabobo]

Nothing, I just like III, IV, VII and IX more.

It's on the SE Japanese site. The English site doesn't even have a section for DQX yet. All the translations are from news outlets reposting a translation from neogaf since it was first.

Actually, no. Siliconera does have actual people that can speak Japanese and do their own translations. They didn't use the Neogaf summary. You are wrong. Remove your head from your rectum.

[Minneyar]

I'm not really interested in a DQ MMORPG, but I remember that I was also pretty dismayed by a lot of the initial announcements regarding DQ9. I ended up spending over 120 hours on DQ9. (my wife has spent over 200) So, for now I'll reserve judgment and wait until we get more concrete details...

[Dogi]

Actually, no. Siliconera does have actual people that can speak Japanese and do their own translations. They didn't use the Neogaf summary. You are wrong. Remove your head from your rectum.

No, it smells good in there.