say what game you've purchased that have been a waste of money?

[reyvard]

for my part trinity universe was a complete was of time and money

-2 or 3 male character in the team for 8 female
- dungeon incredibly repetitive
- each time a character come in you team he is at level 1 even at the end
- music are always the same
- always the same and ugly monsters

verdict : I had to buy cross edge instead !!!

[Ryos]

Hmm, I'm going to have to go with RF Online. I actually never played anything past the beta because there's just so little to do at all in the MMO. When PVP is the ONLY thing to do, there's kind of a problem. Heh. This thread doesn't seem to be specific to XSEED though (and I have no XSEED games that I consider to be a waste of money!).

[nunuu]

.hack//Infection

Or whatever the first game was on the PS2.

Bored me to tears. Bland environments, boring atmosphere, just overall uuuggggggghhhh. I don't think I lasted 5 hours in it.

I heard that the game following was better but eh.

[Peytral]

.hack//Infection

Or whatever the first game was on the PS2.

Bored me to tears. Bland environments, boring atmosphere, just overall uuuggggggghhhh. I don't think I lasted 5 hours in it.

I heard that the game following was better but eh.

OH GOD THIS THIS THIS THIS THIIIIIIIIS

I despised that game. ;_;

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

I've never really thought any game I've bought was a WASTE OF MONEY, but the most recent title I bought that I wasn't overall happy with was Mimana Iyar Chronicle. Those battle loading screens. Every four stepshsdfklsj

[Illuminage]

Cross Edge. The premise was great, the battle system was okay, but everything else? Meh, I'm glad I dropped the game like a hot potato. I may give it away sometime soon, too.

Oh, and Arc Rise Fantasia. Very bad voice acting, the characters were super bland, and well, I like complicated battle systems, but that was just down right insane what they pulled off.

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Two Worlds, worst The Elder Scrolls ripoff....EVER!

[Milius]

Unlimited Saga for PS2.
I was expecting something different and just felt hollow the two hours I spent playing it.
The way it was setup I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

Unlimited Saga for PS2.
I was expecting something different and just felt hollow the two hours I spent playing it.
The way it was setup I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

was that the game where the battle system was basically a roulette wheel and there were traps in nearly every treasure chest?

[Milius]

was that the game where the battle system was basically a roulette wheel and there were traps in nearly every treasure chest?

Ugh yes.
Worst 30 bucks I've ever spent.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

I actually was given that game as a gift...so no waste of money there XD

[Deuce]

Final Fantasy VI. Yes, I'm serious. :P

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Final Fantasy VI. Yes, I'm serious. :P

Haha, i haven't played it, so i can't say...though if it's anything like I and II (bare-bones story), it would probably be a waste of money indeed, for me at least :)

[repulsive human]

Final Fantasy VI. Yes, I'm serious. :PUhh, was it broken or something?

I've never played an XSeed game I didn't like so I guess I'll post about something else.

So I'm only exaggerating a little when I say I've played pretty much every RPG. I've played a ton. Maybe not to completion, but I've played most games long enough to understand what they were about and what I could expect if I continued to play them. I don't always like everything about the things I play, but I can generally find some things to like about them. There's only been one game I've ever played with absolutely nothing redeeming about it.

Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia is the worst game I've ever played. It is not fun to play. The sprites are ugly and poorly animated. The music is really annoying. But I mean, those are all things I can overlook. I play RPGs, which are universally ugly and unfun and annoying. My problem with the game goes a lot deeper than this! This is the most sexist and misogynistic game I've ever played and I'm just sort of astounded that more people don't feel this way!

I don't remember too many details because I played it a long time ago and I didn't finish it (although I got pretty far), but from what I remember, there are these women who have the unique ability to use magic. They're exploited by this corporation for their abilities and are essentially treated as slaves. Despite the fact that they are incredibly powerful, they don't resist and allow themselves to be exploited; women are portrayed as weak from the very start of the game. More than that, they are completely reliant on the men around them, particularly the protagonist. There's a sort of master/servant relationship between the protagonist and the weak female characters who join the party; they are completely reliant on him and although they're no longer working for the evil corporation, they're still using their magic for the exclusive benefit of the men around them. The women in the game are more pets than people.

More than this, there's a sexual component to all of it. In order to recharge their magic, the magical women need soul crystals or whatever to be put into their bodies. There are also segments where you "souldive" into their psyches and explore their subconscious mind and fix their problems. The women are unable to fix the problems on their own, they need the protagonist to do it, further emphasizing their weakness and reliance on men. Both of these things are clearly euphemisms for sex. Take a look at this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoODv8LVib8

So this is actually hilarious, right? I mean, I can't watch this and not laugh at how absurd and heavy-handed this innuendo is. But I mean, this is the whole game. This is it! This is how every single woman in the game is portrayed and this is the same relationship that the main character has with all of them - sort of like a guardian and child. Speaking of children, the game panders to pedophiles too. One of the main female characters is an 18 year old trapped in a 12 year old's body, making it okay for the innuendo to occur.

So sexism in video games, especially Japanese role playing games, isn't a new or exciting thing but it's never been so overwhelming. I mean, this is what the WHOLE GAME is based around, the pet-like subservience of women. It's uh, not okay! And I'm not afraid of sex or anything, but the kind of relationships presented in this game are not healthy. Meaningful sex is between a man and a woman, not a master and a fawning, mentally dependent child.

So I've got this game and I don't actually want it. I want to get rid of this game. I feel embarrassed every time I see it. I can't believe I actually own this. I feel kind of guilty that my money helped to contribute to two sequels. Like, I will give this game away if someone wants it, because I never want to play it again. This is the only game I've ever played my whole life that I have been this repulsed by.

So yeah, Ar tonelico. That's it.

[Illuminage]

...You do know that Ar tonelico is borderline eroge, and it's not meant for all audiences, riiiight? I respect your opinion that you do not like that game at all, but I certainly do not think the females were "weak" in any sort of way.

Also, yeaaah, lolicon and moe. It's pretty much the majority of games now so best not buy much jRPGs at this point.


Final Fantasy VI. Yes, I'm serious. :P
Game is almost as overrated as VII. Keyword, almost, so I applaud thee with with your bravery!

[WanderingMind]

I'm going to second what Illu said here about it being borderline eroge and not meant for all audiences. The females in the game were anything but weak and had personality.

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Game is almost as overrated as VII. Keyword, almost, so I applaud thee with with your bravery!

AMEN! :)

<o.o>

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

Haha, i haven't played it, so i can't say...though if it's anything like I and II (bare-bones story), it would probably be a waste of money indeed, for me at least :)

...is..is it bad that I honestly really liked FFII? Like..its one of my favorite ones of the series...and I'm almost sure I'm alone.

[repulsive human]

...You do know that Ar tonelico is borderline eroge, and it's not meant for all audiences, riiiight? I respect your opinion that you do not like that game at all, but I certainly do not think the females were "weak" in any sort of way.

Also, yeaaah, lolicon and moe. It's pretty much the majority of games now so best not buy much jRPGs at this point.
I think the entire point of the moe aesthetic is that the female characters are weak. That's what the appeal is supposed to be, that the females depend on the males, which gives male players a sense of responsibility. Ar tonelico takes that concept to a pretty awful extreme. Also, uh, who cares if it's borderline eroge. It's not the fact that sex is involved that's awful. Lots of really important media has sex in it. It's the fact that sex is handled with such little regard for the relationship between both partners. They are not equals. Even though the main character is a milquetoast loser, he is still clearly dominant.

It's uh, really bad. Also really obvious. I didn't mind the gameplay or anything, I thought it was okay, but this game is just mindblowingly sexist. Look at that video!

[Illuminage]

Derp. I've played all three games, so I know what video you linked to the community, and gasp, I do enjoy the games. I certainly see nothing wrong with them. Sexism? I see more degrading material of women on regular TV than in video games. Honestly, it's your opinion, but I think you're going overboard with it.

Alas, that's what the Internet is for...uh, right?

[repulsive human]

Derp. I've played all three games, so I know what video you linked to the community, and gasp, I do enjoy the games. I certainly see nothing wrong with them. Sexism? I see more degrading material of women on regular TV than in video games. Honestly, it's your opinion, but I think you're going overboard with it.

Alas, that's what the Internet is for...uh, right?Yeah, I don't think it's wrong to like the game or anything. I don't really care about it and I'm not furious about it or anything. It's just that when I started playing, I was immediately confronted with all this and all I could think was "whoa - I can't believe this is real". I guess it caters to a particular fetish, but I mean, I'm still just surprised that people can be so nonchalant about it.

I'm not trying to be combative or argumentative or anything. Sorry if I came off that way.

[Deuce]

Uhh, was it broken or something?

Well, there was the Sketch bug, but otherwise, no. It functioned more or less precisely as designed. It was just embarrassingly bad. Not a single lead character to speak of, and the one real candidate decides to play nursemaid for most of the back nine. You could easily have written every single playable character out of the game, or at least, into a minor NPC role, and strengthened the overall narrative. The game should have been about Terra and Kefka. Not about Terra, then Kefka, then these other guys for a little while, then maybe these guys, then duhhhh, then oh yeah, here's Kefka, then the world ends, then let's re-collect PCs to fight Kefka, then here's a massive letdown of a final boss (with admittedly nice music), before which, everyone will spout an empty platitude about friendship or some such. And for an ending, we've got a series of meaningless vignettes that mean little and resolve even less, then 21 minutes of Mode 7 clouds and landscapes flying by! WOOHOO MASTERPIECE!

After FF4 (which, to me, was FF2 at the time), I expected something amazing. FF6 was visually stunning and aurally impressive. It just had lousy writing.

I actually have a lengthy, well-honed rant about this game that gets edited every time I have to argue about it. Don't have it handy, so I'll have to drag it out later.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

I actually really liked some of those aspects of the game. I liked that I could have a party of whoever I wanted instead of only plot people. My party for that whole game was ridiculous like....Gau, Umaro, Mog, and Gogo? Yeah. Freaks. And at the time I played it I just liked doing side stuff more then actual story XD its why I like majora's mask so much too, side quests everywhere. it felt less linear or something I guess? D: I dunno. I'm not trying to argue either, just saying why I personally liked the game.

[WanderingMind]

If there's one game that I purchased that was a waste of money, it's Persona 1 Portable. I had come off playing Persona 3 FES and Persona 4, so I thought that I'd give Persona 1 a shot. Looking back, I like to think that I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

So, where to start...I kind of realized right away that this was going to play very different from Persona 3 and 4. I tried to get used to P1P as much as I could...but the gameplay never seemed to work out for me. It also didn't help that I was running through the game blindly. It feels like I should have relied on one so that when I got to the final boss of the game, I didn't get hopelessly stuck.

I didn't like a lot of things about the combat system. I did not like how it took a turn just to change the field position of your party members, and that you could only use what you set up before getting into a battle. I did not like how changing a Persona used up a turn. I never could get how different attack and spell weaknesses worked in this game compared to P3 and P4. I wasn't a fan of negotiating with monsters because to actually get them to listen to me meant that I had to grind to a high enough level to stand a chance. Speaking of level grinding, I didn't like how the game didn't evenly distribute EXP to all characters.

Usually, I'm a fan of Shoji Meguro's work, but I found the soundtrack that he did for the PSP remake underwhelming. I was a fan of the style of music he did for P3 and P4, but it didn't work out for P1P. I found it even more underwhelming after listening to what some of the tracks sounded like in the PSX version.

What I couldn't stand especially was how Mark went "Let's get funky." I still have it ringing in my ears to this day and it makes me want to punch my PSP. That's how much it annoys me.

The worst thing about this game for me was how I played it, got up to the final boss of the game, only to find out that I was stuck and had no way of really making any progress, and how I lost my old save when I lost my old PSP.

I think that P3 and P4 are meant for me. I think I'm going to pass on Persona 2 Portable when it comes out.

I'm planning on getting rid of Persona 1 Portable tomorrow.

[pktazn]

.hack//Infection

Or whatever the first game was on the PS2.

Bored me to tears. Bland environments, boring atmosphere, just overall uuuggggggghhhh. I don't think I lasted 5 hours in it.

I heard that the game following was better but eh.

..... Is it bad I made it through that game because I liked Gardenia? An optional side character you could get who hardly ever spoke? lol

A game I regret buying... hmmm... I can't remember the name because my mind refuses to let me remember it but it was a SRPG for PSP in the early days that had god-awful load times each time I chose an option. I couldn't get past the tutorial level because it took too long for my actions to actually happen. I honestly tried but it just wasn't happening.

[yuki-chan]

Final Fantasy XIII Collector's Edition. I wasted 80€.

[nunuu]

Final Fantasy XIII Collector's Edition. I wasted 80€.
Ack. :( Do you/did you at least have an option to trade it in at a local video game store to recoup some of that?

Hey, I just realized something -- why is this thread in the Everything Else forum which is meant for all other XSEED titles? ^^;;;;

[Sgt Phantomizer]

...is..is it bad that I honestly really liked FFII? Like..its one of my favorite ones of the series...and I'm almost sure I'm alone.

I can't really comment because thats among the FF games i've never played, but i heard it was VERY similar to the first in terms of a bare-bones story and less linear gameplay which is what put me off on FF.

Thats my beef with retro RPGs, some SNES RPGs and more or less every RPG before the SNES is like that and i've never been able to get into them.


Final Fantasy XIII Collector's Edition. I wasted 80€.

I can see where your trying to get at here and i wholeheartedly agree, while i don't think my money was completely wasted, the $18 i paid for it last year, but it's the worst FF game i've played since I and III.
Sure, it has awesome graphics...but thats about it, it pretty much shoved everything we've known and loved about FF down the drain.

[repulsive human]

I actually have a lengthy, well-honed rant about this game that gets edited every time I have to argue about it. Don't have it handy, so I'll have to drag it out later.
Yeah, post this if you can find it. I'd be interested in reading it. I've never heard the argument that Final Fantasy 6 is a bad game based on the strengths of its characters before so I'd like to see why you think this! I think Final Fantasy 6 had some of the strongest character development of that era and was an important stepping stone for the changes Final Fantasy 7 introduced to RPGs. I can't really think of any other games from that era that had comparable character development. Maybe Chrono Trigger? I don't know. Games then really didn't do it too well because of the space limitations of the old consoles and because the medium was new and undeveloped. So yeah, in hindsight it's probably pretty easy to say it had weak character development, but I'm not so sure it was at the time.

[AweOfShe]

Every game I own was worth my time and money. No regrets on my side! :)

[Deuce]

Yeah, post this if you can find it. I'd be interested in reading it.

Found it:

Technically, it's severely broken... even if you don't happen to have a version that's riddled with bugs (beneficial or not, a bug is a bug), the Vanish-Doom/X-Zone trick is far, far too powerful, and totally breaks the game... far more so than any problems in FF7-10. ("So don't use it" is not an excuse. That's like telling people not to use infinite combos in a fighting game. They shouldn't be there in the first place, and proper testing would've gotten rid of them.)

From a writing standpoint, it's genuinely awful. You have fourteen playable characters, not a one of which is actually crucial to the main storyline. Every single one of them could have been excised from the game completely with minimal changes in the writing. To be more specific:

* Edgar & Sabin: The only tie these two have is to each other.
* Locke & Celes: Same story. No relation to anything except each other. Celes' magic-infusion plot thread is completely forgotten shortly after it is mentioned.
* Cyan & Gau: Nothing to do with anyone but themselves. Any character whose primary development comes in the form of an optional sidequest is pretty ancillary by definition.
* Mog, Umaro, Gogo: These three barely have anything to do, period.
* Setzer: A painfully transparent excuse to introduce the airships. Even his World of Ruin sidequest is airship-related.
* Relm, Shadow and Strago: These three comprise an unrelated subplot that can only get resolved if you happen to meet a few specific criteria, and get lucky (with the dreams).
* Terra: The only one with a real tie to the main plot, but even her connection is tenuous enough for her to receive no real resolution to her conflicts, and play no role in the climax and resolution of the story. She could just as well have been just another random party member.

I've had the argument presented to me that this lack of involvement is the point of the whole endeavor, to present that the theme of the story is regular people standing up for a cause, so the individuals don't really need a direct cause-and-effect link to the primary goings-on. That may be, but it doesn't excuse the slipshod writing and lack of any actual character resolution. A story is about more than just themes. It's about characters. This "day-in-the-life" approach is ineffectual when dealing with events that large in scope.

The actual main character of the game, Kefka, completely disappears at the midway point, and is reduced from being a genuinely engaging villain to a spectre and what is essentially a cameo at the very end. Any direction the plot had up through the first half of the game falls to pieces with the World of Ruin. Without the actual villain to provide an impetus to continue, there's no point. He was the most compelling member of the cast, and after he achieved his goal, he turned into a very generic "destroy the world" baddie with no real dialogue to speak of. After he exits stage left, the focus then falls to the individual characters to support the progress of the story, and they are just too sketchily characterized to be up to the task.

This is just bad writing by any meaningful standard, and "it's only a videogame" doesn't excuse that. An RPG survives on its story, and there simply isn't much of one to FF6. Its castmembers have virtually no ties to one another, beyond what and when the game's flow decides is convenient. Outside of the above-mentioned cliques, few of them ever interact with one another, either. Edgar talks to Celes once, as I recall, and there's a handful of character-developing scenes in the early hours, but these soon give way to... well, not much, to be honest. Personally, I would have been far more impressed if the game had followed through on its end-of-the-world scenario, and actually made Celes' would-be suicide the final scene in the game. Had that been the case, I would take back every negative thing said here, simply for the utter courage such a decision would take. But of course, that can't happen with such a high-profile series.

I don't say all of this in hindsight. I didn't care for how it all played out back in the day, either, when the game was new on the SNES. The game looked and sounded great, but there wasn't enough GAME there for it to be worth all the trouble.

[yuki-chan]

Ack. :( Do you/did you at least have an option to trade it in at a local video game store to recoup some of that?

Hey, I just realized something -- why is this thread in the Everything Else forum which is meant for all other XSEED titles? ^^;;;;

Unfortunately I didn't buy it in a Game Store and they didn't accept a return. So I sold the game in a game store, but they only gave me 15€.

[WanderingMind]

I ended up getting rid of Persona 1 Portable and using the trade-in credit to get a copy of Fragile Dreams. Go me.

[Ryos]

From a writing standpoint, it's genuinely awful. You have fourteen playable characters, not a one of which is actually crucial to the main storyline. Every single one of them could have been excised from the game completely with minimal changes in the writing. To be more specific:

Wow, I didn't realize there was someone else out there who didn't care for FFVI. There were some decent elements to it, but it's often heralded as the best entry in the series for some reason? It's kind of a shame though, early on the game keeps showing signs of promise and then, barring gameplay, everything else just gets eradicated.

[Sinrevi]

I vote for my 2nd hand gba cartridge of Kurukururin. But that's because it turned out to be a pirated cartridge and wasn't able to save. (as in savefiles get deleted everytime I turn the system off)

[BuckTwenty]

Kingdom Hearts II.

Without even getting into the overwrought battle system (it wasn't great to begin with in the first game), the story and presentation are awful. I do not care about these stupid dudes in hoods. I didn't buy this game with a bunch of Disney characters in it to be preached to for hours about these "mysterious" hooded guys!

Also, RE: FFVI, once you hit the World of Ruin, I'm right there with you, Deuce - storywise, anyway. I loved the gameplay of FFVI, Vanish/X-Zone trick and cookie-cutter endgame characters and all. I suppose it helps that when I first played it all those years ago on the SNES, I didn't know about the Vanish/X-Zone thing. I really wish there would have been more said about each character during the WoR. Really liked Celes' suicide scene, though.

[Deuce]

Really liked Celes' suicide scene, though.

If they'd had the stones to end it there, I'd have forgiven everything and lauded it as one of the finest games ever made.

[BuckTwenty]

If they'd had the stones to end it there, I'd have forgiven everything and lauded it as one of the finest games ever made.

Haha yeah that would have been unexpected, that's for sure. Are there really any RPGs (or games, period) that end on a note like that? Can't think of any, myself...

[Cloud]

I think I'm going to pass on Persona 2 Portable when it comes out.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't do that!

I mean, yeah, Persona 1's a piece of crap, but don't drop out on Persona 2! It has an AWESOME soundtrack (which wasn't replaced for the PSP port, thankfully!), great characters, a pretty interesting story, and the battle system is way better. They got rid of that whole formation thing for battles, as well as changing dungeons from first person to third person, making it play closer to other RPGs. It still has demon negotiating, yeah, but the conversations are actually kinda humorous, and if you really need tarot cards/items from a certain monster, there's guides out there to give you the answers quickly.

Also, it has COMBINATION ATTACKS, which is insanely awesome and more RPGs should do this since it's AWESOME. But yeah, P2 is all kinds of cool and while it's still a different beast from P3/4, it is still a rad game and shouldn't be missed out on.

[Ivy]

Probably Fatal Frame II, because it wouldn't work and by the time I realized this I was over 1500 miles away from where I bought it.

In terms of "why the hell did I buy this I am not enjoying this at all", uhhh... Tales of the Abyss and Vesperia, Ar Tonelico, that Fire Emblem game for Gamecube, Evergrace, and Shadow of Rome. Albeit the last two were kinda for fun in their silliness and were hella cheap so why not.

[Peytral]

Wow, I didn't realize there was someone else out there who didn't care for FFVI. There were some decent elements to it, but it's often heralded as the best entry in the series for some reason? It's kind of a shame though, early on the game keeps showing signs of promise and then, barring gameplay, everything else just gets eradicated.

I'm trying to find more people who don't care about the series in general. I can only really think of one person I've met who agrees that the series as a whole is pretty mediocre. D:

[Sgt Phantomizer]

I'm trying to find more people who don't care about the series in general. I can only really think of one person I've met who agrees that the series as a whole is pretty mediocre. D:

Hey! <_<

lol

[Deuce]

Haha yeah that would have been unexpected, that's for sure. Are there really any RPGs (or games, period) that end on a note like that? Can't think of any, myself...

The new Alone in the Dark does. I liked that game, but I played the PS3 version, which is the only version that is remotely playable.

[PurpleDoom]

I'm trying to find more people who don't care about the series in general. I can only really think of one person I've met who agrees that the series as a whole is pretty mediocre. D:

I personally think the games are pretty good on the whole and I enjoyed most of the ones I've played, but I can kinda see where you're coming from, as none of them have been the brilliant masterpieces of RPG gaming that many people laud their favorite entry as. They're just... good. Nothing more, nothing less. I think that's why people are always prone to complaining about whatever the newest one is, as well (other than the fact that people tend to complain - regarding XIII, especially - about how the series is breaking away from the "formula" that made it successful, but that's a rant for another time.)

As for a game I feel I wasted money on? Star Ocean: Till the End of Time. It wasn't quite as horrible as some make it out to be, but it's definitely down there as one of the worse RPGs I've played.

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Anyone here think that Vagrant Story is overrated?
I spent a good while tracking a copy down until i bought one from a local game's store a few years ago. I feel like i should have invested the $20 i spent on it towards something else, the guy was offering me a copy in better condition for $29.99 and i'm glad i passed it down :p

[Deuce]

Anyone here think that Vagrant Story is overrated?

Yep. Great setting, exceptional graphics for its time, absolutely astonishing localization, but the game itself is absolute garbage.

[BuckTwenty]

The new Alone in the Dark does. I liked that game, but I played the PS3 version, which is the only version that is remotely playable.

Interesting. Never played anything in that series.

I did think of Silent Hill 2, though - isn't there an ending in there in which *spoilers* the main character drives their car into a lake and drowns themselves? I might be thinking of some other game, as I haven't actually played the thing myself.

[Ryos]

I'm trying to find more people who don't care about the series in general. I can only really think of one person I've met who agrees that the series as a whole is pretty mediocre. D:

The problem is there are SO MANY GAMES in the series that share next to no qualities that there are bound to be one or two someone would like a lot. Or at least I really enjoyed (of the main series) XII, IV, XIII, and I. Yes, some of those are kind of sketchy, and no, I don't like everything of all of those. But I enjoyed XII so much that it practically redeemed the whole series for me.


Yep. Great setting, exceptional graphics for its time, absolutely astonishing localization, but the game itself is absolute garbage.

Same here. I keep thinking I missed out on something with Vagrant Story because it's so lauded. Maybe I just don't get the game system or something.

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Same here. I keep thinking I missed out on something with Vagrant Story because it's so lauded. Maybe I just don't get the game system or something.

I'm thinking of going back to it, it's just the game as a whole was quite forgettable, i played it a while, moved on...and thats that.

[Deuce]

I did think of Silent Hill 2, though - isn't there an ending in there in which *spoilers* the main character drives their car into a lake and drowns themselves? I might be thinking of some other game, as I haven't actually played the thing myself.

Eh. Silent Hill 2 is ridiculously popular, though I confess I've never understood why. I get some of it, but as a whole, I just don't think it really came together. SH1 4 lyfe, etc.

[nunuu]

What's this!?

More people hating on FFVI???

Also, there's hate for The World of Ruin????? SWEET! XD

Seriously, FFVI seemed fine up to that point in the game and then it went on to be a borefest. >:E

As for Vagrant Story, I could never get into the battle system. :(

[BuckTwenty]

What's this!?

More people hating on FFVI???

Also, there's hate for The World of Ruin????? SWEET! XD

Seriously, FFVI seemed fine up to that point in the game and then it went on to be a borefest. >:E

I have to say, I like the idea of the World of Ruin a lot more than the execution. A very open-ended section in a RPG which up to that point had been very linear? Sure! Find your party members and go take on the final boss! Sounds like a good idea! Explore the newly ruined world? Great!

...Have little to no development for your characters for the rest of the game? Hmm. Give almost no guidance to the player whatsoever what they're supposed to be doing, really, at almost any point? I don't know... Completely break the battle system in the game by allowing any character to learn any spell with just a bit of time - and also tweak their stats using the same items? I, uh... Well...

All that said... It is still my favorite Final Fantasy. :cool: I love that game to pieces. Hard to articulate why, really, given that I acknowledge all those faults.

[fedaykin]

...is..is it bad that I honestly really liked FFII? Like..its one of my favorite ones of the series...and I'm almost sure I'm alone.

Actually, I'm also rather fond of it as one of the mad people that nabbed the psp remake as well as Origins on the ps1 back in the day. I wouldn't say that I'm a huge fan, but I think the retro RPG gets an excessively bad rap.
While yes, obviously the game feels very dated and the story is extremely minimalistic (to put it politely), I don't think it's quite as bad as it's usually portrayed.

As I understand it, the main criticism that every review of every version of the game tends to make is that the levelling system is "broken" and insane. Although starting a random battle and then beating up your own characters is indeed the most efficient way to level your party, I never felt compelled to do this instead of just getting on with the plot. I say "plot", when "series of fetch quests involving vast numbers of random battles" might be a more accurate phrase. At any rate, I have had, twice now, a perfectly enjoyable retro RPG experience just playing the game "normally", without getting all emo and cutting up my own party.

The game might seem rather brutal without grinding, given the high random encounter rate and occasionaly sudden spikes in difficulty, but you are given the tools to make it through. Hilariously imbalanced spells like "Teleport" (1HKO aoe) worked on almost all bosses. You might think that's a total joke and you'd be 99% right, but you're also not going to gain any stats from that fight, so the "I Win" button does have a strategic price...

In terms of positives, the game has the guts to kill off certain characters, which seemed shocking when I first played the game. I'm not an expert on the genre, but I'm guessing it was one of the first JRPGs to do so? I quite liked the soundtrack overall with my favourite being probably the unusual oriental boss theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYYXz4ZFqMs
Other than that, repetitive dungeon crawling (at least reaching the masked village was a cool surprise), paper thin characters and story don't really seem to have much appeal. Gosh. I suppose I actually think it's an awful game, but like it anyway. Hopefully, it's just nostalgia and SquareEnix haven't hypnotised me with subliminal messages. What did you like about the game, Boy_Tomo_Chan, out of curiosity?

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

I honestly loved the leveling system in it? You couldn't level up just by fighting the same guys over and over again, cause you only get defense and such up when things do massive damage to you forcing you to go on with game. And yeah I liked the characters and how they so easily killed off people. I found the password system interesting, and I thought the story was forward enough to keep anyone interested long enough. And small thing is I liked in the original NES game how the water moved? I dunno that just seemed awesome for an NES game :D and yessssssss I love the music.


(And just recently I saw FFII on wii shop, and bought it...only to realize it was FFIV! I felt ripped off!)

but in short, I just felt it was a try at doing something different really early on in the series, and I like that.

[GeeLW]

Two Worlds, worst The Elder Scrolls ripoff....EVER!

Hmmm... I'll put a point or three on the board here for Reality Pump and shut up. TW isn't exactly a "rip off" of Oblivion, as there's nothing that's similar about it save for the open world aspect. And there are monsters roaming about that can eat your head off. Other than that, story, characters, combat and so forth and so on are different. Oh, and both games allow for horseback riding (Oblivion wins here, hands-down if you've only played the unpatched versions of TW). If anything, TW is in fact, guilty of being yet another European style open-world game in the vein of the Gothic series and other quirky gems such as Hard To Be A God.

I thought TW did a decent enough job at giving players a larger game world to explore, some really tough battles (especially when you wander off the beaten path), a nice dose of intentionally stupid humor ("it's raining, it's pouring..." cracked me up the first time I heard the main character bust out singing this during a sudden shower) and a pretty fun weapons crafting and spell system. Sure, it IS cheesy at times and the story just ENDS once you get to the final section (no continuing past the endgame!), but it's not a rip-off in terms of anything directly stolen from Bethsoft's work.

Funny thing, though... if you talk to die-hard Elder Scrolls fans, you'll find a number that don't like Oblivion much because they feel TES III: Morrowind was a lot deeper (particularly with both expansions) and had a bunch of things going for it Oblivion was lacking (mainly because Bethsoft made an "easier" game geared toward more casual players). There were some important elements missing such as the completely open towns (and how you could have monsters chase after you into them if you were careless... or crafty enough to put the guards in some areas to work for you). Of course, a LOT of that hatred was doe to the game getting a console release, but I tend to ignore people who try to sound elitist about their expensive PC setups who don't realize that the goal of console versions of games is to EXPAND the user base, NOT piss off people who have money to burn on new 3D cards, neon lighting and custom case wax.

If TES IV was your first experience with the franchise and yes, you played TW not long afterwards, you'd easily play that connect the dots game when comparing. I liked Two worlds because it ended up different in many ways. Simplistic in a few too many important ones (plot, mainly), but it was a decent enough time overall. Hell, the game certainly defied the critics in the US and sold well enough worldwide that we got a sequel. Which, by the way, isn't terrible, either (annoying PR controversy aside, which was NOT the fault of the dev team and the work they put into their baby). Reality Pump STILL can't tell a decent story or sustain it other than some of the more intriguing side quests and other scenarios... but they do have a healthy sense of humor about how their characters interact with each other.

g.

[perrandy]

for me it was blazing souls accelate,cross edge and trinity universe.oh and ys seven.i liked most of the game till the end boss who was pretty difficult to beat.but yeah i'm starting to hate both compile heart and if games

[SplatterTrigger]

I have to say, I like the idea of the World of Ruin a lot more than the execution. A very open-ended section in a RPG which up to that point had been very linear? Sure! Find your party members and go take on the final boss! Sounds like a good idea! Explore the newly ruined world? Great!

...Have little to no development for your characters for the rest of the game? Hmm. Give almost no guidance to the player whatsoever what they're supposed to be doing, really, at almost any point? I don't know... Completely break the battle system in the game by allowing any character to learn any spell with just a bit of time - and also tweak their stats using the same items? I, uh... Well...

All that said... It is still my favorite Final Fantasy. :cool: I love that game to pieces. Hard to articulate why, really, given that I acknowledge all those faults.

I also admit that it's my favorite FF title even with it's faults.



As for terrible game pickups. I only have two. Virtual On for the PS2(wow that was crap),I picked it up because I enjoyed the Dreamcast one and wanted more. Granted mech games in general aren't my bag but the DC grabbed my attention. Next would be China Warrior for the Turbografx-16. I remember being blown away by the graphics on the back if the box. I got my youngling hands on it back in the day,brought it home fired up my TG-16 and knew I wasted my lawn mowing money.

[BuckTwenty]

Next would be China Warrior for the Turbografx-16. I remember being blown away by the graphics on the back if the box. I got my youngling hands on it back in the day,brought it home fired up my TG-16 and knew I wasted my lawn mowing money.

I cannot even imagine what it must have felt like to drop $50 (or however much TG16 games cost back then, I never had one so I wouldn't know) on that garbage, garbage game.

[AweOfShe]

Yep. Great setting, exceptional graphics for its time, absolutely astonishing localization, but the game itself is absolute garbage.

I felt that way about the game too, yet somehow I still ended up forcing myself to finish it. :l

[Ryos]

I honestly loved the leveling system in it? You couldn't level up just by fighting the same guys over and over again, cause you only get defense and such up when things do massive damage to you forcing you to go on with game. And yeah I liked the characters and how they so easily killed off people. I found the password system interesting, and I thought the story was forward enough to keep anyone interested long enough. And small thing is I liked in the original NES game how the water moved? I dunno that just seemed awesome for an NES game :D and yessssssss I love the music.

I think the issue with FF II is more than anything else the leveling system as it was originally implemented. It was so difficult to get stats to increase that most people ended up exploiting the system by attacking characters to inflate HP pools and so on. And losing stats made the process even more laborious. The PSX remake FF Origins and in particular the PSP version eradicated a lot of the grind imposed by the original formula. The plot is still pretty barebones, but at least in later iterations you can enjoy the music (by far the star in the title) and some of the ideas in the game.

[Echiboo]

Hmm...I'd probably have to give the honor to The Last Remnant. Besides its awesome music and pretty scenery, the game was horrendous.

[Lumina]

Final Fantasy XIV

After spending the better part of a decade playing Final Fantasy XI, XIV single-handedly turned me off of the MMORPG genre. I gave it an honest shot for a few months, but in the end it only left me with a bad taste in my mouth, and -$75 in my bank account (I sprung for the collectors edition).

I think it did me a favor in the end though because my ratio of MMO gaming to console/handheld gaming was getting a little one sided toward the end of my time with Final Fantasy XI. Now I have more time to play a wider variety of console games and I'm having a blast!

Here's hoping I can fight the urge to get back into online multiplayer games when Phantasy Star Online 2, and Diablo III come out!

[Todd134]

Probably Tales of Legendia. I was on a Symphonia high after I had beaten it, and of course the battle system was godawful in my opinion. I also hated how some of the MC's moves (he is a fist fighter) would sometimes completely blow past the enemies and the attack would just be wasted TP. No hi-ougi's, awkward walking animations, I don't know. That is just one game I simply cannot sit down and enjoy. I never even bothered to get into the character quests either. I'd have a more enjoyable time playing DQ III for the NES, honestly.

[Eon]

Ephemeral Fantasia - the time loops were a terrible idea.

[conurebleu]

Someone that hates Tales of Legendia O_o

It's my most favorites of the Tales of... agre grrrrrr!


would sometimes completely blow past the enemies and the attack would just be wasted TP

Well...that was rare for me

There are no hi-ougi that's right, and chibi mode might get you sometime, but all is in the character's quest XD The plot is only senel's character quest. I understand that they've been cheap with the voice acting. I got it in japanese to get full voiceacting.

Wasted money? :

Dragon Quest VIII
Dawn of Mana
Romancing Saga
Final Fantasy X-2
demon stone
naruto ultimate ninja
astonishia story :D
Magna carta 2
God of war (good game but too gore)

[Eon]

Romancing Saga



Really? I thought that one was pretty fun. Hawke and Barbara were pretty interesting characters. Although I will admit that if you leveled up to fast the game would get very difficult.

[conurebleu]

Didin't like the gameplay. Maybe I'll try again if the game is good. The character design also revulsed me =/

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Wasted money? :

Dragon Quest VIII
demon stone
astonishia story :D


Anything you want to add on those as to why you consider them "Wasted money"? lol, now i'm curious.

I know the very last one is obvious (i'm still waiting to award a medal to someone who claims it's one of their favorite games :D ).

[conurebleu]

Dragon quest VIII. First I hate dragonball, so that character design here I hate it. As for the music...seriously I also hated it. I couldn't get over that and play the game for an hour.

Demon Stone, Not really my gameplay style. It's pretty medieval not enough colors. But oh well I said to myself that for 5$ I'll try it. I'll give it another try later

[BuckTwenty]

Dragon quest VIII. First I hate dragonball, so that character design here I hate it. As for the music...seriously I also hated it. I couldn't get over that and play the game for an hour.

I am no Dragonball fan (you could say I hate it too), but I don't mind the character designs in DQ8 (or any of the other games in the series). The humans are fine, but I really love the monster designs.

As for the music... WHAT?! The music is probably my favorite part of that game! One of the best soundtracks of all time, I think. Certainly adds to the atmosphere, in my opinion.

Although I suppose if you really dislike classical music it could get a bit grating.

[conurebleu]

Our opinion don't join here ;) A lot of people really like that music. I respect that choice, but I find it boring and ugly ^^''

Cannot compare this with motoi sakuraba that's for sure

[Sgt Phantomizer]

Dragon quest VIII. First I hate dragonball, so that character design here I hate it. As for the music...seriously I also hated it. I couldn't get over that and play the game for an hour.

Demon Stone, Not really my gameplay style. It's pretty medieval not enough colors. But oh well I said to myself that for 5$ I'll try it. I'll give it another try later

I can't stand DB either and even though i dislike the character designs of DB (their.....WIERD :P ) i didn't find Dragon Quest VIII to be unplayable for me due to the character design. Have you played any other DQ/DW game though?



Our opinion don't join here ;) A lot of people really like that music. I respect that choice, but I find it boring and ugly ^^''

Cannot compare this with motoi sakuraba that's for sure

I don't hate DQ8's music (i personally prefer DQ7's) but i whole heatedly agree there, Motoi Sakuraba = Tales of and Star Ocean, so yeah :D

[Grungust]

Oh my god, Lunar: Dragon Song. Worst. Game. Ever.
I tried so hard to like this game, but I just couldn't get even the slightest bit of enjoyment out of it. It came close to breaking my love of the series.

[Dust]

Oh my god, Lunar: Dragon Song. Worst. Game. Ever.
I tried so hard to like this game, but I just couldn't get even the slightest bit of enjoyment out of it. It came close to breaking my love of the series.

Yes, yes, and even more so yes. I gave the game a chance I really really did, but I had the same result. Complete waste of money, even though I got it used cheap.

[88Blades]

I guess it's Medal of Honor. I had it but I think I like that game.

[Grungust]

Yes, yes, and even more so yes. I gave the game a chance I really really did, but I had the same result. Complete waste of money, even though I got it used cheap.
Seriously, I'd love to find the person that thought that running should cause you to lose health and give them a stern talking to. Horrible. Horrible!

[WoottWinds]

The most recent one for me was Enslaved: Odyssey to the West. Bought it at full price purely out of curiosity which stemmed from Destructoid's non-stop glowing coverage of the game, and was more than disappointed. I found it very unpolished, glitchy, and ridiculously constricting for an action/platformer experience. Had to force myself through it, and only did so because I wanted to get my money's "worth". Then it went on sale for less than $20 a couple weeks later.... grrrr....

[Gintoki]

Honestly, I think I have a pretty high tolerance for some things when it comes to rpgs. Heck, I loved the story in FFVIII and Star Ocean: TLH....but FFXIII was just so utterly and completely disappointing, I don't think I'll ever get over how bad of a game it was for me.

Next down the line would be Quest 64. My first rpg for the N64, and utter rubbish at that. I can't even remember now if the main character was ever able to find his father, which seemed to have been the whole point of it.

And then there is the icing on the cake. One of the very first games I ever bought. E.T. for the Atari.........I think any gamer worth their stones knows about this legendary stinker.

[Terro]

And then there is the icing on the cake. One of the very first games I ever bought. E.T. for the Atari.........I think any gamer worth their stones knows about this legendary stinker.

Ouch... very ouch... :( Especially for you first game... I think the first game I ever bought (rather than borrow) was Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 for classy Game Boy^^ Fortunately for me I made a good choice and played that game to death! Although I never did find every crystal...

As for a purchause I regret, the first that comes to mind is Bart vs the Space Mutants for NES. I was NEVER able to pass the first level :( I played over and over, but I guess I missed a bunch of purple things each time. Still, a Simpsons game about spray painting purple objects is yeah....

A close second would be The Glory of Heracles on DS. I REALLY wanted to like a Greek-based JRPG but I just found it so blah! Eventually, the gameplay had me warm up to it, but I still wasn't amused with the story. When it ended it just sort of... ended for me. Nothing special. Nothing. I did beat it and it ended up being "O-K" but that's it :/

Those are the only ones I can think of. I have a GIANT backlog, but either way I would probably regret playing a game, rather than owning one, since I collect JRPGs.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

oh god I played that simpsons game...I don't even know how you're supposed to do it! I wonder if theres a lets play of it somewhere..

[Terro]

A few months ago I had it on a rom, and one of my friends got to the second level... Apparently there were a bunch of tricks in painting the purple things that I would NEVER have thought of. Such a silly game that blocks you from proceeding unless you get EVERYTHING. I did get a glimpse of the second level though, where this time you need to get rid of hats in the mall or something :/

[Fabrizo]

I actually really liked that game, despite never being able to beat the first boss :p

[WoottWinds]

I might get a lot of flak for this, but probably my biggest personal waste of money on games has been getting any of the Shin Megami/Persona titles. I would never deny that they aren't great games, but I have just personally never been able to "get into" them. I don't know why, I love RPGs and I love really unique and in-depth games, but absolutely none of them (Persona 3, Persona 3 FES, Persona PSP, Persona 4, Nocturne, Devil Survivor, Digital Devil Saga) have been able to hold my interest. I've ended up regretting each purchase as with every new release I have tried to once again force myself to become a fan, and it just never happens. At this point I think I just need to accept it's plainly not a series for me, but I know my curiosity will probably force me to get Persona 4 for Vita just to try one very last time... Bleh...

[conurebleu]

You should never force youself to like something. Even if a lot of people like it or dislike it, keep your opinions ^^

I personnaly really liked Spyro Dawn of the dragon, but every time I speak about it, the others said is was crap Y_Y
The same goes for Zelda Twilight Princess, I liked that Zelda a lot more than Ocarina of time therefore I'm considered as an Heretic....

As for something people like in general that I don'T hum...Xenosaga? I can't understand the fans >< Same for FF, yes they are ''Good'' games, but.... I will take me a LONG while before I ever unsealed my FF 12 and 13

[Lumina]

Don't worry WoottWinds, I really don't care for the Suikoden series myself, so you're not the only one with a distaste for something popular with the mainstream RPG crowd.

[reyvard]

at least you tried them :)

me too I liked a lot twilight princess and maybe more than ocarina of time and certainly more than majora's mask

[Lumina]

For what it's worth I agree with you reyvard, TP is my favorite Zelda game to date.

My top three in order are: TP > OOT > ALTTP

[reyvard]

hey you are forgetting the three goods ( in my opinion ) oracle of ages and season and windwaker but ALTTP is really good even if at the beggening it was hard put into !
since I don't have a DS I don't know much about phantom a hourglass and spirit track :( , 2 friends of mine played them and really enjoyed them !

[Minneyar]

The one game everybody else loves that I completely regret buying: Valkyrie Profile.

I really don't understand why other people liked that game. I was looking forward to it, and I bought it... and it has an interesting setting, but that's pretty much it.

All of the side characters you meet over the course of the game get about five minutes of development, then they die and join your party, and then they don't ever do anything interesting again. Most of the game goes by without anything interesting happening in terms of the plot; everything interesting is crammed into the end, and even then, it's not that interesting unless you're getting the good ending. Oh, and the good ending is obscured well enough that you probably won't get it unless you're following a guide.

Then there's the gameplay. The battles are repetitive button-mashing fests. At first it seems like there might be a little strategy as to what order you mash the buttons in, but after you figure out the right way to do it, you just push them in the same order over and over. Most of the characters you get may look different from one another, but they don't have any real difference in combat mechanics or abilities aside from whether they're a fighter or a mage. The game was designed by necessity to allow you to substitute any character for any other, since you can send any of them up to Valhalla.

The soundtrack was ok, but nothing special. It felt like a perfectly average, forgettable soundtrack by Sakuraba. Sometimes he does some really memorable stuff, but other times it's just a generic combination of the same harmonies over and over. VP falls into the latter category.

Anyway, I ended up selling VP to a friend of a friend for $20. My only regret is that a few years later I realized I could have gotten far more for it on eBay.

[Tiamat]

^ I like Valkyrie Profile a lot but I can agree with you as far as the story is concerned. The story is pretty weak and almost all the characters are unimportant to the plot. The way to get the true ending is also stupid and I don't see how you're supposed to get it without a guide except by luck. The combat system is really fun though I think, as there are a lot of different combinations of characters and weapons you can use to experiment with combos. I really like the atmosphere/graphics/soundtrack/2D dungeons, especially on hard mode since most of the cooler dungeons are hard mode only. I also think this is probably the best soundtrack overall from Sakuraba and I've played Shining the Holy Ark, Shining Force III, all the Golden Sun games, Dark Souls (lol), and maybe some other stuff I don't even know he did.


As for something people like in general that I don'T hum...Xenosaga? I can't understand the fans >< Same for FF, yes they are ''Good'' games, but.... I will take me a LONG while before I ever unsealed my FF 12 and 13

If I had actually bought Xenosaga I would call it a waste of money but I borrowed it and didn't even finish the first game. Got maybe 20 hours. The mediocrity is just spewing from the pores with this game. It's like watching a bad 3D anime and then sometimes getting to play an extremely simplistic, slow battle system.

waste of money:
Front Mission 4 - even for 1 cent this would be a waste of money for me. it's like they were trying to make a giant robot srpg as boring as possible. crap story, slow gameplay, blargh
Soul Nomad - combat is way too slow and dull

[Shizuka]

Disgaea 4.

[PringlesXD]

Geez, why the hate, Shizuka?

[reyvard]

I was always curious about disgaea serie since I didn't played no one of these games

[PringlesXD]

I was always curious about disgaea serie since I didn't played no one of these games

It's pretty fun. However, for some reason, Shizuka hated Disgaea 4. And it seems to be the best in the series.

[Shizuka]

Disgaea 4 is the worst in the series for me. It turns me off in every single way, and I'm the guy that bought and enjoyed Last Rebellion for what it's worth, for crying out loud.

[Tiamat]

I wouldn't call it a waste of money but Disgaea 4 probably is the worst in the series. The only thing is has over the others is graphics.

[PringlesXD]

Tiamat too!? Why is that, people? *Yet to play it*

[Tiamat]

First off my general view of the series is that I like SRPGs and I like the humor. It's not particularly strong as a "strategy" game though because it's mostly a grindfest smash things with brute force kinda game. But hey grinding can be fun too so thats just how this with this series. The humor for me is what sets the series apart, so if the humor is lacking it affects my opinion of the game a lot. I feel that 2 and 4 are lacking in humor compared to 1 and 3. For 2 it is mostly because the main characters just don't have funny personalities. For 4 it's because the writing is just straight up awful throughout. Horrid plot and endless repeats of jokes that were never funny anyway. Also, for better or worse, the gameplay has remained almost exactly the same since Disgaea 1. The HD sprites look nice in D4 though.

[Shizuka]

D4 story is dull, boring and completely uninteresting. There's no humor whatsoever, and they try to force jokes down the characters' throats like there's no tomorrow. Seriously, sardines? At least in japanese there was a pun on the word, but in english, it's just not funny.

[PringlesXD]

Sardines? What?

[Gintoki]

D4 story is dull, boring and completely uninteresting. There's no humor whatsoever, and they try to force jokes down the characters' throats like there's no tomorrow. Seriously, sardines? At least in japanese there was a pun on the word, but in english, it's just not funny.

Huh, we'll have to agree to disagree. D2's story was a snoozefest, and D3 was pretty boring too. D4 has been the funniest since the first game.

[Shizuka]

Sardines? What?

Exactly. BACONBACONBACONBACONBACON.

[fedaykin]

I've never actually bought a game that's been disappointing to be honest (not counting times when I've had a faulty disk or something). I always like to do lots of research first and consider that retail therapy as an important part of the fun.

[suashi]

I've never actually bought a game that's been disappointing to be honest (not counting times when I've had a faulty disk or something). I always like to do lots of research first and consider that retail therapy as an important part of the fun.

^^^ I got into that habit after my only real "impulse purchase", which was one of the FMA PS2 games.

[PringlesXD]

^^^ I got into that habit after my only real "impulse purchase", which was one of the FMA PS2 games.

Those were fun! Didn't you like it?

[suashi]

Those were fun! Didn't you like it?

Eh, it was ~7 years ago, so I might like it if I tried it again. I just remember getting visually confused in quite a few levels and frustrated with Al for being slow, LOL.

[PringlesXD]

Oh, I see. Well, it's understandable ~ xD

[Obake]

Only game I can say for sure was a waste is Dragon Age.

Got a few sitting around that I've heard are bad, like Unlimited Saga, but haven't tried them for myself yet.

[PringlesXD]

Dragon Age? Why is that?

[WanderingMind]

Aside from Persona 1, there are some other games that I thought were a waste of money.

There's 3D Dot Game Heroes, which I thought relied too much on nostalgia and too little on actual gameplay. The gag wore off on me very quickly, and even being able to play as Sackboy wasn't enough to make me really enjoy this game. It feels like a poor man's Zelda and I have the feeling I'd have a lot more fun replaying the original Zelda. I mean, I still have to do the Second Quest.

Then there was the first Deus Ex for the PC, which a friend gifted for me through Steam. A lot of people seem to speak highly of the game, but I had trouble getting myself to enjoy it. The game just didn't click with me. And I have the feeling I'll also pass on Invisible War, which I heard wasn't all that great. At least I tried to play it for like 10 hours.

There was also The 3rd Birthday. Maybe it's because I went from the first game right to this one, but I just had trouble enjoying it. Wasn't really a fan of the third person gameplay, what can I say.

[Obake]

Dragon Age? Why is that?

Visually I didn't like the life-like looks of everything. I like my games more stylized and anime-like.
For sound, the voice-acting was meh, and I don't remember hearing any music in what I played.
Too open-ended. I like to be directed, not bombarded with choices.
MMO controls, yet no jumping. This drove me insane. Petty I know, but still.
And something that presumably got better farther in: in combat, all I ever did was cast a couple of those DoTs that explode and do AoE damage. That would drop the entire enemy force and off I went.

Basically i just couldn't get into it at all. I knew going in it wasn't my style of game (WRPG), I only bought it because I couple of my friends were completely enamored with it. Figured I'd give it a shot, didn't work out.

[PringlesXD]

Oh, I see..

[Nool]

For me it was Lunar: Dragon Song and .Hack//Infection. Since I was a fan of the PS1 lunar I had to get this on day 1. The story was probably bearable can't remember, but what I remember is the battle system which was a drag and to make it worse it had that virtue & combat mode. Those who haven't played Lunar DS you can only gain exp in virtue mode & earn loot in combat mode and it's the consistent way to earn money with Gad's Express. You lose health while running :confused: and your items can be destroyed in battle. When my gear broke it made easy for me to die and I spent a couple of hours grinding battles to make money for those equipment and without saving, I just gave up on Lunar DS and it's been sitting on my shelf since. But I told myself I'll get back to DS ugh.


.hack//Infection everything about it was dull to me , bland visual or field design. I gave this a second chance and managed to last longer than the first that's because I was forcing myself to give it a chance. At least with .hack I don't force myself to finish this since I couldn't into the series.

[Obake]

Seems a lot of people didn't like .hack. I, for one, actually enjoyed it. Although I do have to say it wasn't good enough to warrant 4 games of the same thing, as I got bored about halfway through the 2nd one. I want to go back and finish it when time allows, I'm very interested in the story.

[Gintoki]

.hack games were awesome. I especially loved the unique and weird little emails you'd get from other player characters.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

I never regretted playing any of the .hack games one bit! They're so fun.

[Shizuka]

I've only played the GU games, and I must say, I WANTED MORE. I couldn't have enough of it.

[PringlesXD]

I only played the third GU game. It was fun.

[Shizuka]

You should've played the first, second and third.

[Boy_Tomo_Chan]

GU games definitely had better gameplay then the first four, but I found myself liking the characters of the original much more!

[PringlesXD]

You should've played the first, second and third.

Couldn't find it.

[WanderingMind]

If I'm only talking about DLC, then Borderlands: Mad Moxxi's Underdome was easily the biggest waste of money I've ever spent.

Borderlands is pretty much only fun as long as you have other people playing with you, but there's a reason why nobody will go near that DLC. Nonstop, repetitive battles that go on forever and no exploration whatsoever. If I can't get people to help me get through it, then it's a bad sign. I mean, I find it impossible to play on single player.

[Gintoki]

Oblivion dlc. I must have been on drugs or something. : /

[PringlesXD]

Borderlands... *cries* Shizu-chin, I hate you...

[Redhorse]

Felt wasted on the newest Spyro game; it was okay, but too short for the money I spent on it.
Also, Final Fantasy XIII. I haven't finished yet, but bought it back when it was like 40 dollars. I coulda just waited.. -_-

[PringlesXD]

Go finish it, then! ;)

[Redhorse]

Lol, I'm trying, but I've been so busy that it's taking me forever. And Disgaea 4 needs to played, too~ :O

[PringlesXD]

Shizuka said Disgaea 4 was boring, and the worst of all four.

[Redhorse]

I think it's pretty good, just not the best like everyone's been shouting about.

[LadyNeptune]

Probably Super Mario Strikers. I gave my mother the money I was saving up and she bought me that instead of what I really wanted. I played it and hated it and stopped playing it for a few days and then I gave it another chance and decided it was pretty cool and decided to keep it.

[Akai Shuichi]

Inuyasha: The Secret of the Cursed Mask...Oh God, what a horrible game. I decided to buy cause, well, it was an RPG, it was in english and it was from an anime I watched at the time...oh boy, what a bad decision. Awful game.

[conurebleu]

God of war II. Definitely.

Sorry for bringing back the dead. But this topic is still nice ;)

[Deejilator]

I'll help u revive it bleu. :)

LA Noire. To this day it is still the only game that I have ever returned to Gamestop, I hated it that much.

[conurebleu]

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

Thanks for the help :D

[yuki-chan]

Inazuma Eleven, I tried to play it and after an hour I decided to return it.

[Terro]

Inazuma Eleven, I tried to play it and after an hour I decided to return it.

Assuming it was a brand-new game and not a rental, did they let you return it? I'm just curious is Spain has different rules when it comes to returning opened games.

[yuki-chan]

Assuming it was a brand-new game and not a rental, did they let you return it? I'm just curious is Spain has different rules when it comes to returning opened games.

I bought it on a gamestore called GAME, the game was new but it was open when I bought it (they said that it was the last stock that they had) so I didn't have to worry if they didn't let me return it.

[Terro]

Ohhh. Usually when they do that here, they put a sticker seal on it, so it can't be returned when opened. Of course, sometimes those stickers do run out.

[Arctic]

Ys Seven

I like Origin, Oath in Felghana, and I & II Chronicles, but Seven seems so dang boring to me. I wish I could sell it somehow.

[Shizuka]

Record of Agarest War Zero (PS3).

[Olivier]

The only game I've ever truly regretted buying was The Conduit.

Actually, no, take that back: P.N.03 also counts. But I got that for $2, which is less than lunch money, so I have no right to complain.


Ys Seven

I like Origin, Oath in Felghana, and I & II Chronicles, but Seven seems so dang boring to me. I wish I could sell it somehow.
I was bored by Seven until the halfway point, and then I loved it. I have no idea what facilitated this change.

[Verc]

Angry Birds
One of the worst over-hyped pieces of crap I ever bought.
It is not even that entertaining.

[DarkRPGMaster]

The Witcher

So many things with it that I dislike, and overall it only reminded me why I hate the top down and constant mouse clicking interface the older PC games had. It's near unplayable for me.

[Fuepepe]

I'm going to have to go with Soul Calibur Legends for the Wii. That is probably the worst game I've purchased in a long time.

[Chaosblade]

The only game I've ever truly regretted buying was The Conduit.

You didn't play the second game (www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpmMzfphZNE)?

For the record that's the ending. But it's so damn hilarious.

[Xakdrek]

The 3rd Birthday. Horrible

[Mettool]

Persona 4 Arena.

Don't get me wrong; I love Persona. Heck, I played the daylights out of Persona 4. And I bought into P4A because of my love for the series. But juggle fighters are not my forte, and I was deeply regretting my purchase not even 24 hours later.

I should probably Ebay it now while it's still worth something.

[Shizuka]

The 3rd Birthday. Horrible

I had a blast with 3rd Birthday, but that's because I got to play the game with a clean slate, never having played the previous two games before.

[DarkRPGMaster]

I had a blast with 3rd Birthday, but that's because I got to play the game with a clean slate, never having played the previous two games before.
Even if you've played the other games, if you consider it a spin-off, you'll be fine. The story portion of it is horrible, but the gameplay is top notch.

[Shizuka]

It's one of the best third-person shooters I've ever played, not to mention that it's on the PSP.

[DarkRPGMaster]

It's one of the best third-person shooters I've ever played, not to mention that it's on the PSP.
I definitely agree with you. Few TPS games can keep me going through the game more than 20 times, but T3B managed to make me do it.

[Shizuka]

If only it had a different name, based on a different franchise, and published by a different publisher.

[Ventara]

Some of the games that people are choosing as being a waste of money is making me go "Whyyyy! That game is soo good!" but I guess people have different tastes, and I know someones gonna react the same way to my choice.

Anyways, the GTA games for the PSP would be my choice. There are many others, but that comes to mind atm. I don't like GTA and while I was getting it, I was going "What are you doing?" to myself. I will never play these games and they're just gonna sit in my collection forever.

[tilinelson2]

I can't think of any game that has been a waste for me... maybe my standards are too low, or maybe I didn't have the time to play games that I bought and are a waste.

[Raichana]

The only games i'm upset about having spent money on are
Arc Rise Fantasia - terrible voice acting, ridiculous battle system that pretty much plays itself, tired story
A witches tale - Glitchy to the point where it's pretty much unplayable... plus the way to get the real ending is enough to make anyone rage.
Hoshigami Remix - just impossible... maybe i'm just bad at it but i can't get very far in without being blocked by the much stronger then me AI that can attack me but i can't reach it.

but still it's fun when you take a risk on a new IP and it's good... some of my all time favorite games were found that way... i guess that's the gamble you have to take sometimes.