Felghana and Origin on Steam!

[conurebleu]

I could convince my boyfriend to buy it, he usually buy 50-75% game only.

He was like ''I want to play a good action game''

''YSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!''

''All right all right... *dl* So How do I play...I want to move rarrrrr stop the story!.......Oh nice, fast-paced. *Conure* How do I pick up items?''
''You don't''
''What? *later* Gosh that boss is so easy...WTH How can I dodge this? Conure help, how did you dodge that fire arrow thingy?''
''Good luck sweety :D''

[yuki-chan]

One of my friends is desesperated to buy the game.

[Wyrdwad]

Regarding the savedata location, the answer you seek can be found here:

http://xseedgames.com/forums/showthread.php?1458-Steam-FAQ


Windows 7: Ys: The Oath in Felghana: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\
Ys Origin: (Steam Folder)\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\

Vista: Ys: The Oath in Felghana:C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\
Ys Origin: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\

XP: Ys: The Oath in Felghana: C:\Program Files\Steam\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\
Ys Origin: C:\Program Files\Steam\userdata\(unique user id number)\207320\remote\

As for how to change the screen resolution, you can only do so through the separate config program. Exit out of the game, then load up your Steam account, click "Library" at the top of the screen to view a list of your purchased games, click on "Ys: The Oath in Felghana," then click "Play." This should make a small menu pop up. From this menu, simply select "Run Configuration." This will launch the config program. Within, you should be able to easily adjust your screen resolution by selecting something different from the drop-down menu, then clicking OK or Apply.

-Tom

[NeoAthanasius]

Quick question, I must be overlooking something, but how do I disable the widescreen feature? I want my sprites to look normal. I keep looking for the option but can't seem to find it.

Scratch this question! I figured it out. I just had my resolution set too high. This game looks so beautiful and fast on the PC.

[NeoAthanasius]

Thanks for the info Tom. You guys are too good to your fans.

[Lodium]

Yet another stream going today: http://wingdreams.net/ls.php
This one's from me and my girlfriend.



That would be Brittany Avery, production assistant at XSEED. She did a fantastic job!

Indeed she did.
Thank her for us.
Also, its been a long time since ive played these games.
Strugling with the bosses even on easy mode :P
Need to practice and get the hang of it again.

[conurebleu]

IS that live or what?

[none123]

Yes it's live right as of this post.

[Chestnut Bowl]

This is too awesome. I can only hope that Ys Seven might one day get a PC port as a result.


Technically, it and Zero no Kiseki are already getting PC ports, but they're only sold in China (and Taiwan?). I would love official English PC ports of both titles, but that'll never happen.

[conurebleu]

Looking at all those boss fight, I trust my sweet will have plenty of questions to ask me ><

[nphage]

This is awesome. Thank you so much. Finally a way for me to play these games without having to buy a system that I don't own. Please keep them coming.

[conurebleu]

My boyfriend ays the same. As long as the games are 15-20 hours he will definitely buy.

He's having so much trouble on Chester, it's pretty funny to hear that on Skype ><

edit : 20 minutes later, he's still on Chester....Saying how much this game is evil with him....

[SpaceDrake]

The big trick with Chester is to leap over his sonic stab right before he does it - if you do it too early, he'll skewer you.

[Sara]

The big trick with Chester is to leap over his sonic stab right before he does it - if you do it too early, he'll skewer you.

This, also, ONLY attack him (and only from behind) after his stab attack if you want to be absolutely safe and cautious.

[conurebleu]

I'm not giving him any hint :D It's so fun hearing him struggle like this (L)

I can't wait to hear him when he'll be on that dragon in the volcano

EDIT : Since the beginning of our skype conversation he's been on Chester... 1:12:00 ....man he's got some time to loose go upgrade your weapon already ... Wow 1:26 he finally did it, that was pretty entertaining :D

[DownloadingData]

Bought, downloading. Also, just wondering, would Xseed consider putting up the OST as an Add-on/DLC like some other major titles on steam?

[Wyrdwad]

Bought, downloading. Also, just wondering, would Xseed consider putting up the OST as an Add-on/DLC like some other major titles on steam?

We'd be competing with Falcom directly if we did that, since they already have the OST for the game up on iTunes. So in the interest of maintaining good relations, we're politely bowing out of any plans we may have considered to that effect.

-Tom

[conurebleu]

Hi there Tom! I wonder, is there any voice acting in the PC version? I'm playing Oath (I wanted to show my boyfriend how easy was Chester by doing it at the same time) and he said ''Heh, I don't have the voices!''

[none123]

Hi there Tom! I wonder, is there any voice acting in the PC version? I'm playing Oath (I wanted to show my boyfriend how easy was Chester by doing it at the same time) and he said ''Heh, I don't have the voices!''

No voices at all. This is before they went all psp.

[Wyrdwad]

Yep. Felghana was originally released on PC in Japan in 2005, and wasn't ported to PSP until 2010 (not too long before we released our English version, in fact!). And the voices -- along with double-boost, gallery mode, the prologue novella and the selectable soundtracks -- were added for the PSP version.

Actually, come to think of it, I guess that makes Felghana both the newest Falcom title we've localized AND the oldest Falcom title we've localized. ;)

-Tom

[Geed]

Just picked up Felghana on Steam. Happy to support XSeed.

[KnightofAncient]

For those interested in the OST, here you go.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/original-sound-track-ys-oath/id502450453

Note: This and the rest of Falcom's albums on U.S. iTunes are internationally available

[SpaceDrake]

Here's a question: will the Oath website be updated at some point to reflect the PC version's availabilty?

http://www.worldofys.com/ysf/

[Wyrdwad]

And what a good question that is!

...I was actually thinking the same thing. We probably should indeed update it at some point, huh! (:

-Tom

[Neuts]

I just bought the game; thanks for all the hard work, Tom and all you guys at XSEED. Now I'll be anxiously waiting for Origin, which I played on a friend's Japanese copy and of which I didn't understand a word. I'm eager to see the additional content in the "extra disc," too.

[Kovaelin]

I already bought 'Felghana' for the PSP. Is there any reason I should buy it again? I think I'll wait a bit for 'Origin'.

[AweOfShe]

"Because it's Ys" is the only reason I ever need to rebuy any Ys title again. ;)

[fedaykin]

I already bought 'Felghana' for the PSP. Is there any reason I should buy it again? I think I'll wait a bit for 'Origin'.

As far as I can tell, the only reasons to get this again would be:
1. If you really want to do the achievements.
2. If you want to play Oath on a bigger screen.
3. If you're getting it as a gift for someone.

Likewise, I'm looking forward to Origin though.

[Wyrdwad]

I already bought 'Felghana' for the PSP. Is there any reason I should buy it again? I think I'll wait a bit for 'Origin'.

As much as I want to say YES, ABSOLUTELY, GO BUY IT RIGHT NOW... the PSP version *is* technically better in many ways.

Reasons to buy the PC version even if you already own the PSP version would be as follows:
- High-resolution graphics (nice and sharp!).
- Smooth framerate (60fps versus 30fps -- the difference is very clear!).
- Support for gamepads (which is technically true for the PSP version as well if you own a PSPgo, I suppose, but that's beside the point!).
- Steam achievements (perfect if you're a trophy-hunter!).
- Leaderboards (for you competitive types!).
- BLOOD (more of a selling point for Ys Origin, though, where not only do enemies leave pools of blood behind, but you actually leave little bloody footprints for a while after you run through them!).

If none of those are your cup o' tea, though, then you should be fine with the PSP version. We're always grateful for more sales, but we're not about to falsely advertise this as OMGSOMUCHBETTER, when in point of fact, the PSP version of Felghana is pretty freaking amazing as well, and an absolutely outstanding port.

-Tom

[KnightofAncient]

Lesson learned, dont fight Death Faleon when under-leveled.

Im sure that boss name isnt spoilerish. If it is sorries.

[Wyrdwad]

Except for major story characters, no boss names are spoilers in Felghana. They're all pretty random, really. I mean... ZELLFEL ZAM SCHULTIGER!!

...Just sayin'. ;)

-Tom

[KnightofAncient]

Now I wonder where did Falcom get that random name from. Sounds like a legendary weapon like excalibur, hahaha. Heck, it sounds like a Dogi super-move if you think of it.

BTW, Oath still #1 in Top sellers.

[dark jelly]

Not sure where to post this, but I thought somebody here might be able to help.

A few people on the Steam forums who just bought the game are having the text not show up. When the game starts there is just empty space where the text should be (such as, I assume, "start game", "exit game", etc). The dialogue text in the game is also missing.

Anyone deal with a similar problem?

[Wyrdwad]

I saw a tweet about that, with a screenshot. It might be a Steam download error -- have any of them tried redownloading the game?

-Tom

[KnightofAncient]

Try verifying the game's cache in the game's properties.

[dark jelly]

Solved the text problem.

You have to install files for East Asian languages in Regional and Language options.

Don't ask me why that makes the English text appear, but it does. Now to play the game!

[KnightofAncient]

Thats wierd, at least nice that you fixed it.

[Lodium]

Now I wonder where did Falcom get that random name from. Sounds like a legendary weapon like excalibur, hahaha. Heck, it sounds like a Dogi super-move if you think of it.

BTW, Oath still #1 in Top sellers.

I think that proves that steam is starved for japanese games in general, of course i cant be absolutly sure since some people just buy games either just for the heck of it or because its cheap.
12 euro is cheap in my book.

Im hoping it stays on top for at least 2 days more, wishing for an entire week but that migth be stretching it
because that migth be more incencitive for more games like YS and Trails on steam
and also if it does wery well, convince japanese game companies that the western market via steam etc is something they shoud consider more.

[DownloadingData]

Hey Tom, why not put up the game OP and/or the official trailer (www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CJh-RFq4gQ) as the preview video in the steam store page?

[lailmith]

Is there any way to start new game with Hard difficulity? I'd rather start with Hard instead of going through Normal once again :)

[conurebleu]

Thank we can put the blood off...

[DownloadingData]

Im hoping it stays on top for at least 2 days more, wishing for an entire week but that migth be stretching it
because that migth be more incencitive for more games like YS and Trails on steam
and also if it does wery well, convince japanese game companies that the western market via steam etc is something they shoud consider more.

Don't be too optimistic too fast. By the looks of it day 1 sales seem to be abt 300-400 copies only. There is a long way to go yet. That and the only other well known japanese company that still makes pc titles is kogado. The others like TGL died out long ago or shifted their focus to consoles.

[conurebleu]

Skyrim as already overthroned Ys.

I don't like those kind of games -_-

[TG_Judgement]

Don't be too optimistic too fast. By the looks of it day 1 sales seem to be abt 300-400 copies only. There is a long way to go yet. That and the only other well known japanese company that still makes pc titles is kogado. The others like TGL died out long ago or shifted their focus to consoles.

A thing to keep in mind when looking at the top sellers list is that it's calculated by the total amount of money each game makes (and not unit sales),so for every Skyrim sale,Ys needs to do 3 1/3 of sales to get ahead of skyrim's on the list.There's also the fact that the list is a tally of the current week,so for Ys to get on top,it has to match up the money the top sellers already made prior to that.

I'd say there's a lot to be optimistic about.Dunno if this will be enough to convince falcom to restart PC development,but even if not,they still have enough stuff from the past to be brought up to the west.Either way,I've done my part. :D

(oh,and I predict initial sales will be between 20k to 40k units total. :P)

[Neuts]

I'd say there's a lot to be optimistic about.Dunno if this will be enough to convince falcom to restart PC development,but even if not,they still have enough stuff from the past to be brought up to the west.Either way,I've done my part. :D

It seems to me like Japanese developers are mostly concerned about the Japanese market, and from what I hear (I know precisely BACONBACONBACONBACON-all about Japan, myself), the Japanese market for PC gaming is some sort of punchline: tepid at the very best, and mostly associated with porn games. I'm pretty sure the North American market is shifting back towards PC gaming as digital distribution proves more profitable, but I'm not sure Japan will follow; it just seems to me like the Japanese markets moves somewhat independently from that of the rest of the world.

In short, I wouldn't count on Falcom rediscovering the PC, sadly.

[Chaosblade]

Entirely depends on how they move forward and how well games on Steam do. If they move to PhyreEngine over in-house engines (which they've talked about), there wouldn't be any issues developing multiplatform Vita/PC games.

I don't think that would mean every Falcom would get a multiplatform release, but things that are good for localization like Ys games would be good bets. Things like, say, Kiseki games, not so much and would probably be Vita-only.

[MasterRabbi]

I was just talking to a friend about how awesome the Ys series is, and found it released on Steam!

Is there any plans to release Ys 1 & 2 on Steam? Not sure if there was a PC version of Chronicles before the PSP version similar to Oath.

[DownloadingData]

... any idea why OP looks like this on my PC? I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling codec packs, verifying game cache and they seem to produce the same result

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/wmr1988/OP.jpg

[Minneyar]

... any idea why OP looks like this on my PC? I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling codec packs, verifying game cache and they seem to produce the same result

The intro is a pretty standard MPEG1 file. If you can find the folder where your Steam games are installed, it should be under there at "ys the oath in felghana\release\opening.avi"; see if you can play it with a standalone program.

Also, out of curiosity, what codec packs do you have installed? Usually installing more than one is a bad idea, it can cause conflict... I typically just stick to CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/).

[DownloadingData]

The intro is a pretty standard MPEG1 file. If you can find the folder where your Steam games are installed, it should be under there at "ys the oath in felghana\release\opening.avi"; see if you can play it with a standalone program.

Also, out of curiosity, what codec packs do you have installed? Usually installing more than one is a bad idea, it can cause conflict... I typically just stick to CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/).

I did play it as a standalone file using either K-lite / CCCP but they produce the same result. Its not a huge problem for me now as i replaced the original file with a 72mb version from elsewhere. But i'm wondering if anyone had the same problem or is it just me.

[Chaosblade]

Where is the save directory when Steam Cloud isn't used? Don't see it in AppData/Roaming/FALCOM, which is where the rest of the Falcom saves go.

Have to turn Steam Cloud off since my connection is just too finnicky to use it. I'm lucky to even be able to start the game with Steam Cloud enabled, but it works fine with it off. Of course, with it off, my save is gone. Hopefully my new router will solve these problems, but I'd like to play it now ;)

Edit: In the four minutes it took for this message to be posted I found it, it's in Saved Games instead of AppData. Doh.

[KnightofAncient]

Ohh you found it. :D

[MulderYuffie]

Technically, it and Zero no Kiseki are already getting PC ports, but they're only sold in China (and Taiwan?). I would love official English PC ports of both titles, but that'll never happen.I just hope all of the LoH games gets physical releases either PSP/Vita or PC I wouldn't mind which system so as long as I have physical copies. Steam achivements do interest me but I haven't used Steam much and I don't know if there is a way to....how would I put it "show them off" you know how you can with PS3 with yourgamercard and stuff like that. i can't even tell if all achivements your friends earned are even visible on their profiles (although i haven't bought anything on the store so idk). This also means we can get the original PC versions of the trilogy that got butchered on the PSP.....or am i just dreaming an imposssible dream?

[Wyrdwad]

Hey Tom, why not put up the game OP and/or the official trailer as the preview video in the steam store page?

We did, actually. It just hasn't shown up yet, for whatever reason.

We have an email in with Valve to figure out what's going on. Hopefully it'll be up soon.

-Tom

[Kovaelin]

As much as I want to say YES, ABSOLUTELY, GO BUY IT RIGHT NOW... the PSP version *is* technically better in many ways.

Reasons to buy the PC version even if you already own the PSP version would be as follows:
- High-resolution graphics (nice and sharp!).
- Smooth framerate (60fps versus 30fps -- the difference is very clear!).
- Support for gamepads (which is technically true for the PSP version as well if you own a PSPgo, I suppose, but that's beside the point!).
- Steam achievements (perfect if you're a trophy-hunter!).
- Leaderboards (for you competitive types!).
- BLOOD (more of a selling point for Ys Origin, though, where not only do enemies leave pools of blood behind, but you actually leave little bloody footprints for a while after you run through them!).

If none of those are your cup o' tea, though, then you should be fine with the PSP version. We're always grateful for more sales, but we're not about to falsely advertise this as OMGSOMUCHBETTER, when in point of fact, the PSP version of Felghana is pretty freaking amazing as well, and an absolutely outstanding port.

-Tom

Thank you very much for the info! I was wondering what the newsletter from yesterday meant when you said it was an "enhanced port", and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything story/content-wise. At $15, I'm very tempted to buy it again, and maybe I will in the future because UMD's are no longer getting any love (I should have bought it digitally, but I'm not even sure if it's on PSN since I don't look for games I already own).

[Wyrdwad]

I was wondering what the newsletter from yesterday meant when you said it was an "enhanced port", and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything story/content-wise.

Ah, well, if you haven't played the PSP version yet, then here are the benefits to that one over the PC version:
- Full voice-acting for all story-advancing cutscenes.
- Prologue novella and narrated intro added.
- Selectable soundtracks (play with the regular Oath in Felghana music or one of the two original Ys III soundtracks from the late 80s).
- Adventure journal added (keeps a short summary of the story as you go along).
- Gallery mode added (containing unlockable concept art and allowing you to re-watch the game's small handful of anime cutscenes at will).
- "Double-boost" added to gameplay (learned alongside double-jump and adds a whole new layer of strategy to combat, though some say it makes the game easier and thus throws the difficulty off balance).

As you can see, they've each got their own upsides and downsides. I'd say the most important differences, though, are the voice-acting (PSP) versus the high-resolution graphics (PC) (and achievements and leaderboards, if you're into those sorts of things). Depending on which is more important to you, that's the version I'd pick.

-Tom

[Kovaelin]

Ah, well, if you haven't played the PSP version yet, then here are the benefits to that one over the PC version:
- Full voice-acting for all story-advancing cutscenes.
- Prologue novella and narrated intro added.
- Selectable soundtracks (play with the regular Oath in Felghana music or one of the two original Ys III soundtracks from the late 80s).
- Adventure journal added (keeps a short summary of the story as you go along).
- Gallery mode added (containing unlockable concept art and allowing you to re-watch the game's small handful of anime cutscenes at will).
- "Double-boost" added to gameplay (learned alongside double-jump and adds a whole new layer of strategy to combat, though some say it makes the game easier and thus throws the difficulty off balance).

As you can see, they've each got their own upsides and downsides. I'd say the most important differences, though, are the voice-acting (PSP) versus the high-resolution graphics (PC) (and achievements and leaderboards, if you're into those sorts of things). Depending on which is more important to you, that's the version I'd pick.

-Tom

Ohhh!! I see. I misread the newsletter as the PC version being an enhanced port of the PSP port of the Japanese original game (I hope that makes sense). I actually really like the voice acting (I'm not finished Oath yet, but I've played Seven. Chronicles is also sitting on my shelf. I really like your premium packages!)

I really hope that this route is successful, so that we may be able to see more retail releases. Oh, by the way, I really like the art for the Steam achievements http://steamcommunity.com/stats/YsTheOathinFelghana/achievements (especially the 'Forever Alone' art. Nice.)

There was also a mention of a "leaked screenshot" in the OP. Where may I see this screenshot? I did not hear the news.


It's based on Deuce's fan-translation, but as with Felghana and Chronicles, it's being edited in-house. I promise no pop culture references or dumb jokes this time, though.
What pop culture references were you referring to? I feel like I'm not paying attention.

[Lodium]

Give the man a rest :P
Im pretty sure he has better things to do, like translating games and such.
Im impressed by the amounts of answers, thats pretty awesome in my book.
Seams this company cares about its fans or customers wich cant be said for all other companys.

[raz0rback2]

Ok if Tom is fresh and ready again: Can you share some numbers with us? How did Ys do on its first day?
Or if you're not able to give specific numbers: Are you satisfied?

*fingers crossed*

[Chaosblade]

Either I'm underleveled for the boss in the Lava area is harder than I remember. Considering I'm hitting a fair number of 0s, I'm going to guess underleveled ;)

[Wyrdwad]

There was also a mention of a "leaked screenshot" in the OP. Where may I see this screenshot? I did not hear the news.

It's been rendered irrelevant now -- it basically identified that Oath in Felghana was coming to Steam, along with another mystery ValveTestApp (which is, of course, Ys Origin). Now that both have been announced, it's not a very exciting screenshot anymore. ;)


What pop culture references were you referring to? I feel like I'm not paying attention.

If you didn't notice them during your playthroughs of Ys Seven or Ys I & II Chronicles (which I know you haven't gotten to yet, but when you do!), that just goes to show you that they weren't so distracting after all (like some detractors claim). So suck on that, detractors! ;) Heheheheh...


Ok if Tom is fresh and ready again: Can you share some numbers with us? How did Ys do on its first day?
Or if you're not able to give specific numbers: Are you satisfied?

Uh, we haven't seen numbers yet. I don't think any download service offers daily sales reports (though I could be mistaken!). ;) We probably won't know how it did for at least a week, I'm guessing. But based on reactions and feedback so far, it seems to be doing pretty well.

Reactions and feedback can be deceiving, however, so fingers crossed and knock on wood!

-Tom

[Dusty Starr]

I liked the pop culture references and bad jokes... :(

[conurebleu]

Selectable soundtracks (play with the regular Oath in Felghana music or one of the two original Ys III soundtracks from the late 80s).


Where? I didn't see that XD

[Wyrdwad]

I liked the pop culture references and bad jokes... :(

Oh, so did I, believe me. Enough people did that I would never hold back solely because of a few detractors -- Ys Origin just happens to be a much more serious, melodramatic game, so it just seems thematically inappropriate.

Though as with Felghana, there may be a few very well-hidden references in the end. You'll just have to play and find out. ;)

-Tom

[Wyrdwad]

Where? I didn't see that XD

That's in reference to the PSP version. It's right in the options menu.

Not present in the PC version.

-Tom

[Dusty Starr]

Though as with Felghana, there may be a few very well-hidden references in the end. You'll just have to play and find out. ;)

-Tom

Well, I was intending to search the game inside and out anyways, but now I might have somethig to look forward too. X3

[conurebleu]

In option menu, I'm loading my game right now :3

OMG! YS III X68K is Great XD

[Chaosblade]

So my actual problem was that I didn't get the broadsword, since I forgot that wasn't the way to the next area. Bah. Beat it without that silly stronger weapon. ;)

[TG_Judgement]

Uh, we haven't seen numbers yet. I don't think any download service offers daily sales reports (though I could be mistaken!). ;) We probably won't know how it did for at least a week, I'm guessing. But based on reactions and feedback so far, it seems to be doing pretty well.

Reactions and feedback can be deceiving, however, so fingers crossed and knock on wood!

-Tom

Actually,I'm pretty sure that Valve does give you real time sales tracking,so you might want to shoot them an email to get access to your developer page (or ask Spacedrake about that,I'm sure he knows more about that than I do).Do keep in mind though that when you put your game on steam you signed an NDA,so you prolly won't be able to mention sales figures without valve's approval. ;)

[Wyrdwad]

Yeah, Sara told me all of that after I posted my response. (: We've already got our request in, but we don't have access yet, so indeed, we haven't yet seen any sales figures.

Once we do, I'll... not be able to say anything, but perhaps I can make some kind of vague comment with ambiguous implications. ;)

-Tom

[NeoAthanasius]

I'm hoping for great things out of this. Plus, once it has been out for a while a daily steam sale could give it another sales kick. People respond very well to steam promotions.

[lailmith]

It would be interesting to know how well did Felghana do on release, yeah thats true :) And did it meet your expections.

And I guess XSEED has no plans for making any kind of free Demo version for Felghana or Origin? And I'm asking again (sorry) if there is anyway to start with Hard difficult level or do I absolutely just have to play Normal again. Not so rewarding to play same difficulity level for 3rd or 4th time :)

[Chaosblade]

If you have a save from the Japanese version you can stick in the necessary folder. If it's the PSP version you're out of luck unless you download a save file or something.

And I'd guess a demo is out of the question, but who knows.

[lailmith]

Well that is the problem, my old save files went KABOOM with my old PC HDs :/ Nah, I don't have the PSP version yet. I need to get it one day though, just to hear Tom's VA ;D There is one line correct? :)

Yeah, I don't believe there ll be demos :/ So I just have to go on with my Ys speeches to convince people who haven't heard of the series xD

[fogbug]

It's currently the #7 seller on Steam so it can't be doing too badly

[Shizuka]

It was #1 at some point yesterday.

[TG_Judgement]

Once we do, I'll... not be able to say anything, but perhaps I can make some kind of vague comment with ambiguous implications. ;)

Make it a guessing game.Winner gets bacon.


It's currently the #7 seller on Steam so it can't be doing too badly

Considering most of the games ahead are games on sale (and games on sale move a LOT of units),I'm inclined to agree.

[Shizuka]

And there's the fact that even though this was a new project for XSEED, most of the hassle was getting it on Steam, because almost everything else was either ready or got dealt by Falcom.

[KnightofAncient]

Ya at least 5 games are on sale. Exluding the ones on sale, Felghana is in 5th place. I think as long as Felghana is up on the top seller's list, its very good. If it stays on that list throughout this week and the next, then there is no reason not to be optimistic.

[NeoAthanasius]

I can't believe how blindingly fast this game is on PC! I'm sure its just perception since I'm playing on a 24in monitor, instead of a PSPgo, but boy is it fast and lovely.

[none123]

That particular achievement is the one I'm most proud of. It's for series fans. Think back to the slightly naughty easter egg in Ys I Chronicles with Feena (if you even know about it!)... and see if you can duplicate the basic circumstances of that easter egg in Felghana.

I expect word of mouth will be the only way most people are able to figure that one out, but I guarantee you someone will get it soon enough. ;)

-Tom

Got it. But no measurements output?

[Wyrdwad]

Nah, we weren't going to mess with the game that much. (: We just wanted that slight little nod, you know?

-Tom

[none123]

Nah, we weren't going to mess with the game that much. (: We just wanted that slight little nod, you know?

-Tom

lol ok I understand. Now a slight problem seems to have risen with the steam achievement. I did the elena escort on normal and it did not count as part of the achievement it seems, unless it's a different escort part? As well as Swine savior too that's odd.

[Wyrdwad]

D'oh! Those two are partially bugged. They work sometimes... but depending on how and when you complete the escort mission and pikkard quest, they sometimes don't trigger the achievement.

The really unfortunate part is, both issues was just fixed, in a patch that's being compiled and sent off to Valve as I type this (which will hopefully go live within the next 24 hours or so)... so you were a mere day away from getting credit. :(

Keep those save-game files, though, and try again after you patch, and it should work like a charm.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

-Tom

[none123]

D'oh! Those two are partially bugged. They work sometimes... but depending on how and when you complete the escort mission and pikkard quest, they sometimes don't trigger the achievement.

The really unfortunate part is, both issues was just fixed, in a patch that's being compiled and sent off to Valve as I type this (which will hopefully go live within the next 24 hours or so)... so you were a mere day away from getting credit. :(

Keep those save-game files, though, and try again after you patch, and it should work like a charm.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

-Tom

I did save an extra for the elena escort so that is no problem. The pikkard part is easy and will be doing it in the harder playthrough again anyway for the elixir so that is fine. Not your fault really since this whole steam overlay is new to me as well.

[conurebleu]

My boyfriend is trying to find the achievement with Elena, without telling me what it was not to offuscate me XD I told him, I've done it on Ys I, don't try to hide XD

[AweOfShe]

Oh, so it wasn't just my imagination that the counter for the Elena escort achievement, and the Pikkard rescue didn't go through. No biggie though, since I can blast through to those parts pretty fast.

[DownloadingData]

It would be interesting to know how well did Felghana do on release, yeah thats true :) And did it meet your expections.


A ballpark figure would be abt 500-600 copies moved so far, given my completely unscientific guesstimate using the concurrent player online number in the stats page (~300 atm).

[Mousse]

A ballpark figure would be abt 500-600 copies moved so far, given my completely unscientific guesstimate using the concurrent player online number in the stats page (~300 atm).
Not even close. A game won't even be able to place on the Steam chart with 500 sales in a say. Dear Esther, a roughly comparably priced game, had to sell 16,000 copies on launch day to reach the number one position.

I can kind of see how you're trying to estimate it based on concurrent players, but it's off for various reasons.

- Some people don't immediately play what they buy (they might intend to play on the weekend, they might have something else they're playing but are buying to support the developer)
- It's concurrent. As in how many people are playing it at any given minute (people not asleep, at school, working, etc), so this number is much smaller than the people who own a game
- If they're playing it offline mode, which is not unusual for games that don't have multiplayer, it's not counted

[TG_Judgement]

A ballpark figure would be abt 500-600 copies moved so far, given my completely unscientific guesstimate using the concurrent player online number in the stats page (~300 atm).

The game stat page is a really bad meter for total sales volume,since it only shows current concurrent users (and max concurrent users in a single day). Doesn't aggregate people who have purchased but not played yet,people playing in different timezones,or people who play in short bursts. Recettear didn't have big numbers on the concurrent list either,but it still sold 27k on it's first two weeks.

Out of curiosity,why are you low-balling on your predictions?

Edit:Or what Mousse pretty much said.If I were a betting man,I'd say that the concurrent users list accounts for 10-20% of total purchases max.

[Kovaelin]

Thanks for answering all my questions, Wyrdwad. I know there were quite a few.

[Rebel40000]

Cool, glad to see OiF is finally up on Steam. I'll get it, although I'm not certain when. I will definitely get Origin when it comes out, though!

Now for a quick question, is there any possibility we might see Ark of Napishtim on Steam? I know Konami handled the PS2 and PSP localization, but I'd love an official release of the PC version.

[Wyrdwad]

Not outside the realm of possibility. We'll just have to see what the future may hold!

-Tom

[TG_Judgement]

A something a bit unimportant considering everything,but I don't suppose you're thinking of making an official steam group for the Ys games?

[KnightofAncient]

A something a bit unimportant considering everything,but I don't suppose you're thinking of making an official steam group for the Ys games?

I concur with that statement.

[MulderYuffie]

The game stat page is a really bad meter for total sales volume,since it only shows current concurrent users (and max concurrent users in a single day). Doesn't aggregate people who have purchased but not played yet,people playing in different timezones,or people who play in short bursts. Recettear didn't have big numbers on the concurrent list either,but it still sold 27k on it's first two weeks.

Out of curiosity,why are you low-balling on your predictions?

Edit:Or what Mousse pretty much said.If I were a betting man,I'd say that the concurrent users list accounts for 10-20% of total purchases max.I hope it sells enough to warrant physical release copies of the upcoming games along side digital releases. I will purchase it one day at a lower pirce as I already own the PSP version currently but am really interested in Origins.

[Chaosblade]

I hope it sells enough to warrant physical release copies of the upcoming games along side digital releases. I will purchase it one day at a lower pirce as I already own the PSP version currently but am really interested in Origins.

I doubt they're going to see that well ;) And physical copies of Steam releases are pointless, honestly. All you get is a box with the code to redeem the game, and a disc with the Steam installer.

XSEED could probably make up for the physical release by making official cover art for people to print, since an empty DVD case is pretty much the same thing. ;)

[perrandy]

yeah i'm passing this title and wait for origins instead since thats a game that havent been brought to the states till now...

[Wyrdwad]

Felghana patch is live. Anyone who was hit by achievement bugs or had invisible text should be good to go now. ;)

-Tom

[SIN]

Not outside the realm of possibility. We'll just have to see what the future may hold!

-Tom

I would totally get that, since the PSP version wasn't a very good port. And I guess I could try to find the Ps2 version, but I'd rather buy an Xseed release!

[none123]

Felghana patch is live. Anyone who was hit by achievement bugs or had invisible text should be good to go now. ;)

-Tom

And it does work. Thankyou sara and xseed.

[MulderYuffie]

I doubt they're going to see that well ;) And physical copies of Steam releases are pointless, honestly. All you get is a box with the code to redeem the game, and a disc with the Steam installer.

XSEED could probably make up for the physical release by making official cover art for people to print, since an empty DVD case is pretty much the same thing. ;)Wait does it have to be specifically for Steam? If what you said would be what happend that really wouldn't be good considering i'd still be downloading the game....that sucks. Can't some PC games bought just be compatiable with Steam but still have the game disc(s) instead of a steam installer and code.....or no?

[Sara]

Wait does it have to be specifically for Steam? If what you said would be what happend that really wouldn't be good considering i'd still be downloading the game....that sucks. Can't some PC games bought just be compatiable with Steam but still have the game disc(s) instead of a steam installer and code.....or no?

Steam CD/DVD title installers generally include the full game anyway, so it would only really require patching (if any further patches existed) after installing from the disc.

[MulderYuffie]

Steam CD/DVD title installers generally include the full game anyway, so it would only really require patching (if any further patches existed) after installing from the disc.Oh i see now. I'm not a PC gamer and never bought a PC game or even bought a game on Steam so i'm not too knowledgable on stuff like that but one day I might get more into PC related stuff.

[TG_Judgement]

Steam CD/DVD title installers generally include the full game anyway, so it would only really require patching (if any further patches existed) after installing from the disc.

Iunno,but physical steam games always looked like glorified backup installers to me.I remember reading that installing from a CD doesn't always work right.And that some games got so many files patched that most of the game ends up being patched anyways (MW2). You could do a steam-free version,I guess (pretty sure valve does not lock you in to their service),but then cost/benefit...


Oh i see now. I'm not a PC gamer and never bought a PC game or even bought a game on Steam so i'm not too knowledgable on stuff like that but one day I might get more into PC related stuff.

You should.If you stick around,you might find out soon enough why people go all "master race" over this platform. :P

[lailmith]

The best thing about Steam CD/DVD releases is that they are often cheaper than buying directly from Steam. But I guess that only applies to big titles.

[Chaosblade]

Steam CD/DVD title installers generally include the full game anyway, so it would only really require patching (if any further patches existed) after installing from the disc.

Do they? Neither of the games I've bought (Orange Box and something else, forgot what it was) installed the game off the disc. My brother got Mount and Blade Warband on disc since it was really cheap. Next time I see him I'll have to ask if it installed from the disc.

[Neuts]

Do they? Neither of the games I've bought (Orange Box and something else, forgot what it was) installed the game off the disc. My brother got Mount and Blade Warband on disc since it was really cheap. Next time I see him I'll have to ask if it installed from the disc.

They probably do. I bought Skyrim off of a different site (which was selling it 15% off on launch day) and it installed from the datapack I downloaded off of that site.

[Dogi]

The best thing about Steam CD/DVD releases is that they are often cheaper than buying directly from Steam. But I guess that only applies to big titles.

Thats what steam sales are for!

[lailmith]

Thats what steam sales are for!
Well yeah. Let's take Shogun 2 for example. Normal Steam price 40 euros, usual retail DVD price around 20 euros, Steam midweek madness 10 euros, cheapest retail DVD price around 6 euros.

And I'm an idiot for buying my 2nd shogun from Steam only to notice few minutes later I could have got it cheaper and easier if I had bought a 2nd DVD. You can't win always, sad :)

[KnightofAncient]

Tom,

Since the subject of the game's OST has been brought up on this thread and other websites, and those not on this forum might not be aware of its availability on iTunes.

Here is an idea, is it possible to link either XSEED's site, or the game websites to either Falcom's iTunes page or the games corresponding OST listing. Falcom already has the banner on their site, maybe edit it a bit.


Doing this also lets people preview the games soundtrack thanks to iTunes.

This is just a suggestion that came in my mind today and it is for all other Falcom games XSEED releases, and we know that Falcom plans to bring the rest of their OST's to iTunes.

[Wyrdwad]

It's a good suggestion, but since we're not directly involved with that soundtrack release, there may potentially be legal or contractual reasons why we wouldn't be able to do that. (I'm not saying there are, just that I wouldn't be surprised if there were.)

Worth looking into, though.

-Tom

[tilinelson2]

I've been advertising these games a lot here, and Oath in Felghana ended advertised in a popular retrogame site. Let's hope it will result in some sales. People seem to be fond of Steam.

[Dogi]

Well yeah. Let's take Shogun 2 for example. Normal Steam price 40 euros, usual retail DVD price around 20 euros, Steam midweek madness 10 euros, cheapest retail DVD price around 6 euros.

And I'm an idiot for buying my 2nd shogun from Steam only to notice few minutes later I could have got it cheaper and easier if I had bought a 2nd DVD. You can't win always, sad :)

Why would you buy it a second time when it's a steamworks title?

[lailmith]

^Some people just are damn stupid (or am I the only one?). ;)

I hate/love how Ys games are so awfully addictive. It is so freaking difficult not to play it and try the same boss for 50th time same day (yes, I suck at Ys - playing Hard atm I guess I should have stayed with normal). The only thing that was keeping me from playing this was Shogun 2 download - took over 72 hours nonstop downloading.
And it is nearly never ending cycle.
1. Fail the boss X times - 2. Decide to take a long break - 3. Five minutes later try the boss X times - 4.1 Fail, go to #2 - 4.2 Success, play till reaching the next boss and go to #1

It was same with Ys I&II some weeks ago. I thought I'd play them slow pace, but I ended up finishing them in few days though I had other stuff to do as well.

[TG_Judgement]

^Some people just are damn stupid (or am I the only one?). ;)

I hate/love how Ys games are so awfully addictive. It is so freaking difficult not to play it and try the same boss for 50th time same day (yes, I suck at Ys - playing Hard atm I guess I should have stayed with normal). The only thing that was keeping me from playing this was Shogun 2 download - took over 72 hours nonstop downloading.
And it is nearly never ending cycle.
1. Fail the boss X times - 2. Decide to take a long break - 3. Five minutes later try the boss X times - 4.1 Fail, go to #2 - 4.2 Success, play till reaching the next boss and go to #1

It was same with Ys I&II some weeks ago. I thought I'd play them slow pace, but I ended up finishing them in few days though I had other stuff to do as well.

Wait...72 hours?Did you get Fall of the Samurai,or is that just for the 5GB for vanilla patch?

And on Ys, I seem to fall to the same pattern as you...'xept I'm playing on normal,but the bosses still hand my behind to me in a silver platter. :v

[lailmith]

No Fall of the Samurai, only Shogun 2 - clan & blood DLC - Rise of the Samurai DLC

[RockmanXSquared]

Hey i just wanted to throw this out to whoever was responsible for putting together the steam trailer for OiF, nice one with the trailer ;) (referring to the last part).

[Seboist]

Definately plan to pick up both of these from Steam when I have the dough to spare. I hope Ark of Napishtim and Chronicles show up on there as well in the future!

[Spacetortoise]

Ys Origin :D *Looks at crappy pc* *cries*

[Dogi]

The Napishtim engine is very old. You should be more than capable of running it.

[Spacetortoise]

Nah, my laptop had a problem recently and now the graphics card doesn't work at all. Can't even run minesweeper :(

[none123]

Congratulations xseed. I am seeing people stream oath on twitch.tv and possibly many others.

[Kovaelin]

I've seen a couple LPs recently on YouTube too. Some are even doing the PSP version.

[TG_Judgement]

XSEED should harass valve to let them announce initial sales numbers. :P

[deiron]

Hello. Trying to find solution to my problem, but still... I'm trying to launch Ys Oath of Felghana (steam version) on my x64 windows 7 and it crashes on start screen (after two "promos" of x). Does somebody know, how to solve such provlem? Only solution I've find was to update video drivers and it still doesn't help...

[Wyrdwad]

Hello. Trying to find solution to my problem, but still... I'm trying to launch Ys Oath of Felghana (steam version) on my x64 windows 7 and it crashes on start screen (after two "promos" of x). Does somebody know, how to solve such provlem? Only solution I've find was to update video drivers and it still doesn't help...

Have you tried going into the game's configuration program and checking "Disable movie playback"?

Also, if it crashed back to desktop, did it generate any files ending in .mdmp in the game folder? If so, you can send those to support@xseedgames.com and we'll pass them along to the programmer so we can try to determine where the error is occurring.

We may be able to offer a temporary solution, too, until the next patch comes along.

-Tom

[none123]

Hello. Trying to find solution to my problem, but still... I'm trying to launch Ys Oath of Felghana (steam version) on my x64 windows 7 and it crashes on start screen (after two "promos" of x). Does somebody know, how to solve such provlem? Only solution I've find was to update video drivers and it still doesn't help...

Another way to help is to check if any codecs are interfering with the playback, and its best to also verify the files to see if any got corrupted.

[deiron]

Unfortunatelly "disable movie playback" doesn't help. And I checked cache with Steam option, so none of game files can be corrupt. Game just crashes to desktop faster (on title screen again. I'm able to see it for about a sec and then...)

Sending you my dump files. Hope this wil help. Thanks anyway.

[SIN]

I hope we get Napishtim on steam as well! I have the PC version with an english patch, but some annoying things happen like items showing up as white squares on the map, and it'd be nice to get an official translation, even if you use Konami's since I haven't played that one either.

[lailmith]

I hope Ys Complete more than Napishtim but getting both would be totally awesome of course :)
General rule applies here too, the more Ys we get the better it is ;)

I wonder if Ys Complete is difficult technically get work well on Steam since it does have its' share of issues with Vista & Win7.

[Sara]

I hope Ys Complete more than Napishtim but getting both would be totally awesome of course :)
General rule applies here too, the more Ys we get the better it is ;)

I wonder if Ys Complete is difficult technically get work well on Steam since it does have its' share of issues with Vista & Win7.

Well, if it ever did happen, those issues could probably be fixed.
I don't imagine it would be very fun to fix though.

[lailmith]

And that is one more reason to want Ys Complete on Steam. :) Finally being able to play it without all that messing.

That is actually also why I'm really looking forward to Ys Origin. Finally, I can play the game without all those crashes and graphic bugs. And more importantly I can finally beat it, damn those end game crashes were so annoying :D I believe all those issues ll be fixed for Steam release? :)

[deiron]

Thank you for replying so fast, dear developers. Those files from "mar26_crashtestbuilds" make my game run perfectly well. I hope there won't be any problems. Do you need me to gather any additional info?

[SIN]

I hope Ys Complete more than Napishtim but getting both would be totally awesome of course :)
General rule applies here too, the more Ys we get the better it is ;)

I wonder if Ys Complete is difficult technically get work well on Steam since it does have its' share of issues with Vista & Win7.

I've already beat Ys Complete on PC, it ran fine on my Vista though surprisingly. The best part about Complete was the fan made patch that let you add the perfect collection soundtrack onto it, which was my favorite way to play it, it felt very vibrant. If they do bring it to steam I hope they make that an official patch!

[lailmith]

I've already beat Ys Complete on PC, it ran fine on my Vista though surprisingly. The best part about Complete was the fan made patch that let you add the perfect collection soundtrack onto it, which was my favorite way to play it, it felt very vibrant. If they do bring it to steam I hope they make that an official patch!

The best part about Complete is that you can replace all game tracks with version you like, just copy and replace :P

Sure, there may be some loop issues but it is not that much of a problem in all cases :)

[SIN]

The best part about Complete is that you can replace all game tracks with version you like, just copy and replace :P

Sure, there may be some loop issues but it is not that much of a problem in all cases :)

Yeah, I'm guessing somebody did something to make it loop okay though, I really enjoyed that though! I'd rather see Trails on there after Origins personally though, I can hold off on ys 1&2 since there are so many ways to play it already. And I'm guessing if Napishtim is even considered, it'd be awhile before it is released. I hope Origins comes out soon though!!!

[lailmith]

Yeah, I'm guessing somebody did something to make it loop okay though, I really enjoyed that though! I'd rather see Trails on there after Origins personally though, I can hold off on ys 1&2 since there are so many ways to play it already. And I'm guessing if Napishtim is even considered, it'd be awhile before it is released. I hope Origins comes out soon though!!!
When I copied and replaced track there it would only play the music once (and even some cases this wouldn't still be an issue since many Ys tracks do not actually play that long in game compared to their real track length) but when I renamed the "loop file" something else it played the track on repeat.

Yeah Trails would be awesome, btw what is the difference between Trails psp and PC versions? I can't really remember.
I just hope Ys Origin comes out soon and XSEED to announce another Falcom Steam title or titles. :) I want to finish Ys Origin, watching the ending from youtube just didn't feel right :D